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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

Even before HIPAA, doctor patient privilege existed. They're required to keep care between only patients and other authorized care givers.

Signing off on some known falsehood might be an issue but these press releases don't contain factual data nor are they submitted under penalty of perjury.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The cure for Trump-induced-anxiety is to read history.

Woodrow Wilson had a stroke in office and was incapacitated for months. The VP never took over, instead Wilson's wife basically became the Steward of ~~Gondor~~ America. So until Melania is in charge of the Executive Branch, this isn't the craziest we've been in regards to Presidential heath.

Y'all gotta stop your desperate search for a savior. The 25^th^ isn't a handy alternative to impeachment; it's actually much more difficult because it would require even more Republicans to agree. Donald Trump is America's medicine and we're going to have to drink it all.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Dare I say… could we use Nancy Reagan’s astrologer?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Y’all gotta stop your desperate search for a savior.

Americans keep reaching for more desperate answers instead of realizing they need to do it themselves by actually protesting.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 2 points 3 hours ago

Have you missed the news about all of the protests happening across the country? Have you missed the news about do-nothing democrats getting primaried (or on track to get primaried in the next few months) across the country? There are definitely a lot of Americans that are just waiting for someone to save them, but theres also a lot who are actively getting involved. It doesn’t feel like it bc things are shit, but this is a historic time for grassroots movements. There’s a lot of motion all over the country. Don’t lose hope

[–] mitram@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Donald Trump is America's medicine and we're going to have to drink it all

What did you mean by this? Care to elaborate?

[–] DevastatedBungHole@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's an idiom, similar to you've made your bed now lie in it

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Dug your hole and threw out both the ladder and the shovel.

[–] mitram@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Ah, thank you for explaining.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HIPAA. Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

HIPPA Health Insurance Probably Paying Accountability Act.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is a misconception that the Privacy Rule creates a right for any individual to refuse to disclose any health information (such as chronic conditions or immunization records) if requested by an employer or business. HIPAA Privacy Rule requirements merely place restrictions on disclosure by covered entities and their business associates without the consent of the individual whose records are being requested; they do not place any restrictions upon requesting health information directly from the subject of that information.

Source: Wikipedia

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't answer the question. That says the person can be asked about their health but no one is required to comply.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IANAL but as I understand it, in the USA an employer can require you to get a medical declaration that you are fit for the requirements of the job if they see evidence that suggests that you might not be. You are then required to get that declaration from your doctor and give it to your employer. HIPAA doesn't apply but it could go before a judge to decide if you refuse to provide it.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yeah every healthcare job I've had has required a physical where the most intensive item is one squat + stand back up but also includes:

  • basic push/pull against light force applied by the examiner
  • a hearing and vision test that includes a check for color vision
  • of course drug testing and fingerprinting.
  • I also have to provide my shot records and provide any waivers for a specific allergy to something like eggs (in which case I still have to get the flu shot I just have to get a different one that's slightly more expensive for the company to purchase).
  • Then they'll give me boosters for everything I don't have a recent enough record of and either place a PPD with a reading appointment or (hopefully) just draw a quantiferon gold.
  • Oh and I have to be fit tested for a respirator (which I better not ever run into in psychiatry buuut).

So yeah I have to be more physically fit to wash granny's butt and babysit depressed people than the president needs to be to lead a country.

[–] Steve 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It won't go before a judge or anything. You're not "Required" to provide it. It's just that if you don't, you'll likely be fired. But you don't have to worry about being arrested at all.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It won’t go before a judge or anything

If you believe you are entitled to both keep your job and not share the requested medical information with your employer, then your only recourse is to sue your employer to bar them from firing you, and take it before a judge.

[–] Steve 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that suit likely won't go to court eithor.
But that doesn't matter, your not being arrested for not giving your PHI. You're not required to do so.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

your not being arrested for not giving your PHI. You’re not required to do so.

I don't really understand what kind of distinction you are trying to draw. If the question is, can an employer require you to provide medical information as a condition of employment, in so far as it pertains to fitness to do the job, the answer is yes. You do not have a right to ignore this requirement of your employer. If you did they couldn't fire you for non-compliance.

Your employer can require you to start at a certain time, wear a specific uniform, or even to refrain from speaking about certain topics while on duty. You would not get arrested for violating any of these but that doesn't mean they aren't required of you as an employee right?

[–] Steve 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I guess I have a different idea of what require means.

In this you're making a choice between getting a letter from your doctor, or finding another job. Neither looks like a requirement to me. Making the choice is a requirement. But options in that choice are, options.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess I have a different idea of what require means.

That's entirely possible. From what you wrote I think your definition of required is along the line of "that for which there is no possibility or option to avoid." Is that accurate?

[–] Steve 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes.
Or I suppose where the other option is death.

I suppose you could say it's required in order to do something. But you'd need that specific qualifier.

[–] SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I would assume this would fall under state secret which would suppressed any and all medical information. Violation would be deemed treason. Wonder if Top Secret clearance is why White House chief medics in past administrations have all been Military.

Apparently, that doesn't apply to falsehoods being fed to the public.

"Yep, he's 6' 11" and a svelte 180 lbs, with absolutely no other medical issues."

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Doctor's are required to protect the patient and those around them, even if it means protecting them from themselves. I don't think HIPAA would have anything to do with it disclosing that type of information.

That doesn't mean that a doctor couldn't be coerced into lying, taking a political side and violating their oath, they are still human.

[–] LordFireCrotch@lemmy.today -2 points 23 hours ago

They didn't say anything about Biden, so I wouldn't hold my breath about Trump.