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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

3rd option voters seething at a reasonable strategy.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago

Add a 3rd option for "neither" and if that one wins the two other candidates get executed.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago
[–] trainsrkool@lemmy.ml -2 points 57 minutes ago

Hehe yeah vote for bluemaga, now with 0.001% less genocide! See way better!!

[–] jama211@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna fucking explode at the idiots in here, for fucks sake. Let me put this simply.

If you didn't vote, fuck you. Fuck you to hell.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 2 points 49 minutes ago

I voted third party. I am glad we can still be friends 🥰

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Don't let .ml see this.

They were yelling at me to not vote Platner, to start a single man revolution.

I'm ready for one, I hate our system, the democratic establishment is aiding fascism as much as the terrorist republicans. But not voting for the guy advocating for policy to help working class people, that calls out both democrats and republicans, that both parties are spending against...

That's just shooting ourselves in the foot at that point. People will die if a republican wins. Healthcare will be pulled back further. Etc etc.

You would think the people yelling at you to read theory would understand it themselves.

From Marx: dialectical thinking, I can work with 3rd party advocacy while recognizing the material and concrete situations as the exist currently and make strategic decisions.

From Lenin: being a single individual starting a revolution would do nothing buy get myself killed and harm the building of a revolution. The first person who dies would not be a billionaire in such an ill conceived violent revolution without mass support and parallel alternative systems to capitalism to support revolutionaries.

This image I've been resonating with as, of course, I've been attacked by the right, but now I've been fending off the authoritarian left and I think this is where the whole "horseshoe theory" really comes from. It's just authoritarianism.

[–] CelestialBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This kind of post isn't helpful. It's useless finger wagging at this point that isn't actually going to substantively change things and it does nothing to challenge Democratic ineffectiveness.

Is the Democratic party better than the Republicans? Sure. But during the whole time Biden was in office that didn't stop my rights from eroding in the state I live in and the current Democratic status quo is to claim that standing for some civil rights is a problem. I won't say some things didn't get better but an improving economy didn't help with the cost of living for those of us who actually have to live in THIS economy.

The general argument though, is that if you vote for the lesser of two evils, therefore you're picking the opponent that you feel you are most likely going to nudge on the issues. The DNC ran a postmortem, claimed that they were going to be open and honest about the results, then hid the results when it contradicted their pro-Israel stance.

Nevermind that our leaders are fighting corruption and fascism with strongly worded letters, while the establishment is engaged in actively trying to destroy any momentum from their left while they seek out this mythical centrist Republican that'll vote for them. Am I supposed to feel okay with a party who's establishment thinks my rights are optional? Are brown people supposed to feel safe when out government is engaged in active ethnic cleansing and the opposition is dog whistling about how much they love strong borders? Are people of middle eastern descent supposed to feel okay when the opposition party supports a genocide?

Are we supposed to be convinced that a political party is willing to pay attention to protests and act on them, when they can't even be bothered to be transparent about and learn from a postmortem that told them actual fucking genocide is a line in the sand that enough people are unwilling to cross that it'd cost them one of the most consequential fucking elections of century?!

Voting blue is a tool, but how is doing it no matter who going to be meaningful when the Democrats won't learn from their mistakes, will double down on their harms, will throw their own candidates under the bus for being too far left, and will continuously shift rightward?

I'm all for not letting the perfect get in the way of the good, and I have absolutely followed through on the "picking your opponent" mindset, but you actually have to have good on the board.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Push for systemic change and fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Too bad the people who need to hear this aren't listening. I tried to make the same argument in 24 and constantly got responses that didn't amount to anything more than

Nope, I'm gonna take my ball and go home, who cares if temu Hitler wins? Both sides blah blah blah

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 1 points 27 minutes ago

Too bad the people who need to hear this aren’t listening.

I don't think this is fair, and I don't know that I trust you could steel-man your opposing view.

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