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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

About fucking time

[–] john_t@piefed.ee 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Here come the Sun tariffs.

A Monty burns style sunblocker seems about on par with what they would do next

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

We somehow still managed that despite the fossil fuel industry's meddling for fucking ages.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Solar is extremely cheap

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Only probably a decade or so later than it would've happened if Jimmy Carter's panels hadn't been removed from the White House.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 11 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

All while having a climate change denying president that pushes for "clean coal" whatever that means 🙄

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine a population so stupid, that you can just say "clean coal" and it fucking works.

Hey now, I've been producing clean turds for years. Should mean you're just about ready to eat them right?

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 4 points 9 hours ago

I suppose the fact that education is very expensive there is one of the reason the population got dumber overall.

Where I live I had the opportunity to go to the 11th best engineering school for 500€ per semester. And even if you couldn't pay that yourself you could ask for financial help from the government.

There shouldn't be a price tag to knowledge...

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The only reason we call it climate change is because George W Bush admin directed the entire government, NASA included, to stop using global warming, because climate change sounds less scary and more manageable.

Then we backronymed that into "actually they're totally different words with different meanings".

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The semantic debate is pointless.

These climate change or global warming deniers are not on the same plane of this conversation.

They open their windows, say "look its cold outside this morning, global warming isn't true".

It is so insanely a bad faith argument that discussing about the way they call it global warming or climate change when they deny the phenomenon is pointless. They are way past semantics.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying we are way way past that kind of debates. And it's not even a debate per se when one of the participant is going so low as to present weather and climate change as the same thing.

I think the climate change deniers use global warming for their vocabulary just because they can say the above bullshit and pretend like weather has anything to do with climate change.

On a more rational and scientific level I think climate change would be prefered by climatologist because it's not as simple as "everything in the system that is climate is getting hotter". Some air will get hotter at some places, some water will get exceptionally colder at some other places. The climate systems are getting dysfunctional is the main idea. Global warming is actually rather reductive in the way a scientific would talk about what is going wrong.

At the end of the day, global warming isn't probably the most scientific way to present the problem but I agree that for the layman it's probably the easiest to help understand why it's a critical issue.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't meet too many people that say that "it's cold outside" thing anymore. Even the politicians, at least in my country, don't. Now they just argue about what's causing global warming, or whether it's worth trying to fight it.

I think changing terms confuses people and should be avoided whenever possible.

Especially because GWB was right, "climate change" is less scary sounding.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 1 points 1 hour ago

Well Trump and many of his supporters are very much in this opinion...

That's millions of people in the United States that think "global warming is an hoax" and it matters. This news does show that individual states can still transition to greener energy sources but it's still a major issue that the president pushes hard his toxic ideas...

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Make coal go in the ground again

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Between coal and kleptocrats, only one of those things is actually possible.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 9 hours ago

Sush. dont let the republicans know that you’re reducing energy bills. they’ll find a way to charge you and give the proceeds to their oligarch friends

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

It was a low bar but you finally did it...