I love the audacity of food places still asking for a tip on a pickup order when I'm ordering online. Like wtf. This stupid tipping culture needs to die and people who work in the industry just need to be paid fairly. This is insane.
this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2026
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The last time I ate at Steak n Shake, you order from a kiosk, fill your drink at the soda fountain, pick up your own food from a window, and bus your own table. Those fucks had the audacity to suggest a 20% tip at the kiosk
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A lot of people in the comments are remarking on the tip culture in America. Friendly reminder that it's not the culture that necessitates tipping here. We have a tipping economy when it comes to a lot of service work. $2.13 is the minimum wage for servers in the states. This is less than what could rightfully be called a starvation wage, so tipping is a social necessity. You might think that's crazy and we should change it, and you would be correct.
And yet this is BS when many servers are among the highest paid minimum wage people.
And they’ve had this ridiculous tipping wage for decades, and used to be ok with 15% tips
Now suddenly everyone wants a tip regardless whether they’re a server, some tips are stolen by management, we pay “service fees” for the servers, and suddenly we also need 20+% on hugely inflated food prices.
I’m sorry but servers seem like the only part of the economy doing well
Doing well? They're getting by like the rest of us. Why would they do that job if they weren't being paid for it?
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Ok
I tip 0% at places where I go to the counter, order, wait, pay, and retrieve my food. That is a base level expectation, not a service or a favour.
It helps that we don't have a 'tipping wage' anymore.
40% is an obvious strawman, but it's a shitpost so that's ok.
No one likes tipping culture. But regardless of what we want to happen, the reality is in the US there are jobs that depend significantly on tips for living wage. It is a well-understood social convention, and by making a purchase you are implicitly accepting the expectations associated with the customer. By taking the worker's time and refusing to pay that part of their wage, you are underpaying them. Your protest against tips in no way inconveniences their shitty employer or otherwise incentivises them to do better. The only one worse off is the service worker you stiffed, and nothing improves.
If you do want to actually change things, you can become politically involved to try to improve their wage so they aren't actually dependent on tips. Or you can boycott them by taking your business to places that don't rely on tips. That way the shitty employer actually loses business to places with better practices. But don't be a dick to an underpaid worker while pretending to have the moral high ground.
you are underpaying them
I'm not their employer, so I'm ok with that.
Servers themselves are opposed to change because of how embarrassingly overpaid they are
Wonder how much of this is due to the high class restaurants where servers do make a great wage (low six figures depending on the restaurant) and the lesser paid servers thinking they’ll get those jobs, some day.
To think that most servers are “embarrassingly overpaid” is pure fantasy.
That’s one of my objections for sure. I’ve gotten better service at neighborhood diners than some high end restaurants, yet 100% tips at a diner is less than the basic 15% at the high end restaurants. That diner server should have the opportunity to earn the same as that server at the high end place, yet it never happens
And yes tipping is sexist. A hot young server in a short skirt out-earns every time, regardless of service.
If you’re going to claim tipping is for good service, then a good server should be able to out-earn regardless of the restaurant and regardless of whether they’re are “hot”. That doesn’t happen
This. We had it on the ballot in Massachusetts and it got voted down in big part because a lot of tipped staff thought they would make less money from tips and they get brought up to the regular minimum wage if they don't make enough anyway.
That's fine, we're a democracy I guess. Meanwhile I basically stopped eating in and tipping and it's saving me loadsa money. Win win.
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We don't have the tip culture here lol
Man, actual restaurant resraurants, non chain / non franchise... are just... largely not going to be a thing in a year or two, in the US, at this rate, outside of extreme high end places.
Margins aren't there anymore, doesn't matter how much owners gaslight servers, or anybody gaslights consumers... if you're microwaving premade stuff... people can do that at home.
if you’re microwaving premade stuff
Yeesh what restaurants are you going to?
This really takes away from the rest of your point. The only restaurants I know that do this are of the chain variety.
A very large number of franchise/chain restaurants are literally just microwaving or reheating pre made ingredients or in some cases entire dishes.
https://substack.perfectunion.us/p/the-hidden-reason-why-restaurants
What restaurants do I go to?
Oh I'm fucking poor, and I act like it, so none, beyond maybe once a month, a local, non chain, american style diner or mexican place.
But what most people go to, or DoorDash/UberEats/etc., most often, in the US, is some kind of chain restaurant/fast food place.
Oh I probably misread your point… you’re trying to say they’ll be ok because that’s all they’re doing + economies of scale, and they can keep costs down.
Yeah.. yeah.
Yes, you've got it now.
The chains will continue to exist, mostly, even though a lot of 'underperforming' locations are gonna get axed.
Real restaurants? Either gonna have to be actually run by basically business savants, which is ... extremely uncommon... or maybe have a very substantial amount of local community support... or, they're basically gonna have to be or become luxury restaurants.
10% is standard. Always has been and always will be (at least for me). Can go higher, but only if service is exemplary. "Just doing their job" level service gets 10%.
And don't give me shit about inflation and the cost of living. The meal is twice as expensive now, which means a 10% tip is already twice as big as it used to be.
Guess what, my standard is 0% because luckily I don't live in a country where people are underpaid
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