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Ford is set to become the first to use LFP batteries in a mainstream EV in the US, starting with its $30,000 midsize pickup.

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

So long as Ford doesn't botch this like they did with the lightning, it'll be great. With the lightning, they stopped letting regular people buy the base model unless you were a fleet manager. Even then, when the dealers got the base models they were marking them up $30k over MSRP (during and shortly after covid).

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don’t get why they did that. They marked up the Maverick Hybrids too and we ended up getting a more expensive Mazda rather than a Maverick because the markup was so much that the Mazda was cheaper out the door. Not even around Covid either, this was the summer of 24.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

I ended up just buying a Bolt EUV '23 to give to my kids when they start driving and I'll just wait on the used market for me to get a light duty pickup for weekend projects. I get some looks pulling a trailer with my Bolt though, lol. Besides the Bolt did give me a good idea of what EV ownership is like and what I really want on my next EV for road trips; faster fast charge. 10-97% in 9 minutes sounds like a dream compared to my 10-80% in just over an hour in my Bolt.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Gotta love the US. Here in Canada it’s illegal to sell over MSRP. There are a TONNE of Lightnings in my area. Now when I get one will have to be used unfortunately. Really sad.

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That didn’t really stop Canadian dealers from being scummy. I saw a bunch of “used” lightnings that were ~2 mo old and had ~2,000 km on them, being sold well above MSRP.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Strange. Several of the dealers around here had dozens of them sitting new on the lots.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Chevy has some EV silverados that look good on paper. I've never seen reports on how they do in the real world though. If the minimum price wasn't so high I'd have looked closer to replace my last truck. (maybe in a few years)

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

We need the Hilux BEV here.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Aren't they coming out with the new lightning? Its supposed to have a gas generator onboard to extend its range up to 700 miles or like half of that when towing, which is what I heard was a major complaint on the battery only lightning

Edit: https://www.equipmentworld.com/trucks/pickups/article/15814463/nextgen-ford-f150-lightning-to-get-gas-generator-to-extend-range

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yes. Personally, would rather have a full BEV. Don’t do any towing long distance, so don’t need the extra complexity, repair and weight of the generator.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly what I’d love to see is more classic vehicles get remade as EVs. Like the VW Bus, could you imagine if they brought back the Bel Air as an EV? It would sell like crazy. That’s how they need to go about getting EVs popularized in the US

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

That’s the one I was talking about above. I was saying I want more of that, but like classic cars like the ‘57 Chevy Bel Air. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if they made one.

Or like could you imagine if they went backwards on the trend of giant trucks and started making smaller classic body trucks, like if they remade the ‘95 Ford Lightning or brought back the El Camino? Smaller vehicle, lighter body, further range on battery and it’d look fucking clean

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Uh, VW already tried that and it flopped.

[–] nerv@fedinsfw.app 1 points 3 hours ago

You're thinking about the VW Bus, now presented as the Buzz?

Unsurprising.

It was never about revamping the classic, in its concept, but capitalizing on nostalgia.

By contrast, Renault brought back their legendary Model 5 and regardless the car being a behemoth compared to the original, it captured and delivered a new car built on a nostalgic concept.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

It's because of the price. I would've bought one already of it didn't cost so damn much.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Idk. I’ve seen a few, but it’s also a bus so I can see the lack of appeal. Minivans haven’t been popular for sometime. Try a more popular classic body and the reception would be wildly different.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 hours ago

I think it's more likely to have flopped because it's a $60k+ car with less range and barely faster charging than the (until recently) $20k Chevy bolt, and it's big appeal would be road trips that it can't competently handle. If they had sold it at a price competitive with its actual competition, e.g. other minivans, and/or if it had decent range it probably would have done better.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh fuck me! An all electric, or even hybrid 57 bel air? I just jizzed my pants at the idea

[–] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Basically an electric Maverick?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago

Sure looks like it

[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like its still lacking a did cent sized bed. Hopefully they start giving bed/cab size options for these EVs.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago

It's ridiculous. Maxxus T90 similarly only offer version with long cab and short bed. This way the manufacturers ensure that nobody whose like me and actually uses a pickup to transport stuff won't buy it.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Just in time for BYD to start shipping sodium battery powered that are cheaper.

[–] Dustin03@lemmy.zip -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

So will hybrids not be a thing in 5-10 years? I bought a new hybrid Camry I can't do electric because I live out In the country and can't use public chargers. I'm just curious how this is gonna effect the market down the line when I go to sell it hopefully it keeps its value like most Toyota products

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

“Pickup”, it’s a sport cute missing some roof.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca -3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

It’s pointless. Any “truck” stuff this thing can do I could do with a Honda Civic.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I doubt you can haul a full sized fridge in a Civic. I used to know a guy with an appliance store that did his deliveries with a small truck, so this isn't just an unlikely thing, it is real for somebody.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Give me a compact wagon like a BMW 3 series and I could. I have a compact 3 series sedan (same class size as a Civic) and I can haul a ridiculous amount of stuff with it. From over a yard of mulch to 10’ lengths of lumber/sofit/trim etc.

[–] sharkweek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago

I've seen someone transport a full-size fridge in a 125cc scooter. Of course you can do it with any car, you just use roof bars.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Utility van does a better job at this. Trucks are nearly pointless. No one needs a pickup.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

That is debatable. Trucks work well, and for this a truck is much smaller since you don't need to fit it inside.

Finding a small truck is hard though, they haven't had them in the US in 20 plus years.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

A civic without a roof or back seats. Nice to see that option in an ev too.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Toyota needs to bring the Hilux BEV here. A real EV truck that is smaller than a full size truck.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It will have to equip engine-noise loudspeakers and an exhaust smoke generator, or it will flop miserably.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Nah, you just need big hairy electric truck nuts.