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cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/48796725

An EU court has said the manufacture of private jets can’t be excluded from a list of activities deemed to be environmentally sustainable, fuelling concerns about the greenwashing of the emissions of the super-rich.

The list, intended to provide an ⁠overview of green investments, previously excluded aircraft for private or commercial business aviation due to their high emissions compared with other forms of transport following a 2023 decision by the European Commission.

The court argued that the 2023 ruling was made with a number of errors, including that other modes of transport couldn’t necessarily be seen as low-carbon alternatives as they “lack the flexibility and speed” of private jets.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Ha! Those stupid americans!

Wait... EU? But everyone from the EU says they're too smart for stuff like this to happen.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

wHy DoN't ThE eUrOpEaN pEoPlE dO sOmEtHiNg!!!??one

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Legitimately lol'ed

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Even EU politicians like money, and can be persuaded to change their mind if presented with enough of it. And rich people like their planes.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, it's funny when they see that it can happen to them too. How is germany doing with that Afd, anyway?

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Children of Kali time. Let's build some drones .

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell, this ruling is about the manufacturer of jets, not using them.

So, uhh, it's a green investment to buy one and let it sit unused. I guess I can't disagree with that.

Nowhere does this ruling say that flying is green.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So, uhh, it's a green investment to buy one and let it sit unused. I guess I can't disagree with that.

I can. Do you think building the planes doesn't affect the environment? And the companies wouldn't build them if the demand wasn't there.

So maybe it's not as bad as burning tons of jet fuel with them, but just being willing to buy one is enough to damage the environment.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Courts have a long, proud tradition of not seeing the forest through the trees.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Or the trees themselves, for that matter.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

"what's a tree?" - kid born in 5 years

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 8 points 11 hours ago

Didn't the EU also pass laws making green washing illegal?

[–] VexLogic@feddit.online 162 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ya know, when I first subscribed to NotTheOnion I thought the title was a bit confusing. But over time I've realized the beauty of it. Looking at these headlines and thinking to myself, "man this has got to be a joke right?" then I look up and see this is NotTheOnion, and my heart sinks 😅 We're really in the worst timeline huh guys

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 51 points 18 hours ago

Worst timeline... so far

[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 66 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

And they want me to give up driving and my gas stove...

"Rules for thee, not for me"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Getting rid of the gas stove is for your own respiratory health.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 25 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

You’ve been driving your gas stove?

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Range rover? Nah mate, I drive a range hood 😎

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Using the stove to heat up the water instead of coal is a natural evolution of the steam engine...

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It gets them all hot & bothered.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Of all the people to drive a gas stove I would have thought it'd be you, homes.

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago

Yes. We need to do those things as well, and this travesty doesn't remove the need for all of us to decarbonise

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

« * The court noted that the Commission had failed to take into account that ⁠private ​jets could be flown ​on sustainable fuel.

  • The Commission can appeal the ruling within two ​months. »

Not all is lost… it’s a technicality especially if sustainable fuel has a stringent definition which is exactly what I would do if I was to address this decision.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

could be

That "could be" is pulling a lot of weight...

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

* The court noted […] that ⁠private ​jets could be flown ​on sustainable fuel.

How does that even matter? They don't.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

That’s what legislation is about; defining shit. If you don’t grasp the importance of clear, precise and fool proof regulatory frameworks which includes such a definition I don’t suppose you’re the public that should worry about technicalities. Just consider that this is generally part of the game and it will be patched.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as sustainable jet fuel.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That’s exactly my point… the definition would define that in a way that makes the court decision irrelevant.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm only basing this on your comment, but there's no real "definition" there. They'll just lie and say x new fuel is sustainable per their definition.

Unless they actually go into a lot of detail as to what a fuel needs to be to be sustainable.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The lack of detail is what got them the court decision. Logically the definition will be amended. That’s generally how they proceed while establishing regulations. Sometimes with better first time right though.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If money is involved the owners of that money already thought of that. If it was blackmail, the individual(s) involved probably made a plan for that hurdle. But here's to hoping the Commission will do the right thing.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a rather complex system here but I reckon our checks and balances are still somewhat functional. I have some trust.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I reckon our checks and balances are still somewhat functional

Have you been in a coma since January 2025?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

We’re talking Europe right? We haven’t yet fallen in as low as some others.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 59 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

transport couldn’t necessarily be seen as low-carbon alternatives as they “lack the flexibility and speed” of private jets.

Despite going through hundreds of litres of jet fuel an hour... All for one person in some cases.

Sorry trains, you aren't flexible enough... Whatever the fuck that means

The court clarified that the climate impact metric used by the Commission is about aircraft operation, while this taxonomy decision was about the manufacturing of the aircraft itself.

Oh so they agree that private jets are horrendously inefficient and ruin the environment, but they are "green" to build them so that is okay...

WTF

[–] homes@piefed.world 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Trains literally bend. WTF

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 21 points 20 hours ago

Technically trains hinge.

Planes do bend

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

How many of them, that decided this, have a private jet?

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe none, but they like little presents, from time to time.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Or are looking to buy one in the near future?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Or be gifted one.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Give it a week or two before counting

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 26 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

What in the fuck have these people been smoking...

I can't think of a less green form of transportation besides perhaps rockets.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How about a traction engine with flame throwers on the sides to burn down forests as it trundles along?

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A rocket might be better than a private jet overall. May depend on the payload and its purpose.

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[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago

Green is a type of table with 6 or more legs

Rock is a type of pen

Solidarity is another word for quicksand

Poor is defined as a human citizen

If thee can change the definition of anything they want, then so can me

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