Also, me trying to use a mac.
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I'm a lifelong Windows user. I was using DOS and Windows 3.1 back in the 90's. I learned how to set up and manage windows servers in college. I manage an active directory domain at work.
I did not like Windows 8 or 10. I think removing the start menu was stupid. Changing the right-click context menu was even more stupid. It seems every iteration of Windows up until Windows 7 focused on adding new features and improving the UI, where as every iteration after has stripped features away and made the UI worse.
Windows 11 was the last straw. I built a new PC earlier this year and run Nobara Linux on it. It's not perfect, but it's been fantastic and it works much better than Windows 10 or 11. Thanks to AI chatbots like Gemini I've been able to get help when it comes to learning terminal commands and configuring my OS just the way I want it. It plays all my games from Steam, GOG, itch.io, and even my ROM library. I've even been able to install Amethyst mod manager to install mods for Elder Scrolls Oblivion, which has been great fun. Amethyst also supports other Bethesda titles like Skyrim, Fallout, and Starfield. I'm very happy with it. It feels like I haven't had to sacrifice anything. All my games work, but now I have total control over my UI, when my OS installs updates, and I have privacy again. No tracking BS reporting back to Microsoft.
Also at work we used to have over a thousand windows workstations. We've been switching our users over to chromebooks and now there are less than 100 windows workstations in our domain. Microsoft has lost me as a home customer, and over 90% of our business customers. I think they've shot themselves in the foot because I don't see how cloud computing is going to carry them for much longer. I think almost half of microsoft's cloud runs office 365 and onedrive, which home and office users don't actually need. Libre Office exists and people can use dropbox instead, if they even need it. Many people can just use a USB drive like the old days. Microsoft Azure makes up just over half of microsoft's cloud infrastructure, and a significant portion of their azure market is running AI clusters. I do think there is an AI bubble, and that won't continue for long either.
I think Microsoft is going to have a comeuppance, and it will be well deserved. They brought this upon themselves.
In corporate environment, add Crowdstrike, Zscaler, windows instrumentation, and then some digital experience management solution to report on why apps are so slow, battery life is still only a few hours while it heats the room while sitting 'idle', or trying to render a file explorer window with 20 cores and 32 GB of RAM. Did I mention there are updates and you MUST REBOOT NOW, forget that you are presenting to a client.
Almost as offensive as Dell laptop keyboards on their corpo laptops. Ugh.
My corpo windows laptop has 122 background processes running in task manager
Sounds like your IT doesn't know how to properly orchestrate updates.
Best way to do it in a Windows enterprise environment that I've seen so far:
- 1 Week: Install in the background silently and finish when the machine reboots.
- After the week, 2 Days: Warn once that the machine will automatically reboot in 48 hours.
- 12 hours before forced reboot: Pop up a warning in the corner with the countdown before reboot. Options are reboot now or warn me again in X hours. If you dismiss it without selecting, it pops up again in an hour.
If your Windows machine hasn't rebooted in a week and a half, of course you're going to have performance issues. What, you expect devs to avoid memory leaks?
That all said, the amount of Windows sysadmins who haven't entirely given up on wrestling Microsoft's update bullshittery is shrinking every day.
It is about reasonable defaults. Why would anyone want to stop their presentation for Windows update reboot? It should be much more friendly how it handles this. Like always check what the user is doing and when is a reasonable time to do it? Maybe at the end of the day.
Personally, I think they need to work on the whole concept. Make it as transparent as possible or less likely need a full reboot - containers or put more things in like wsl? Make the reboot only do reboot and not 20min installing updates... The user cant even chat on teams or browse the web while waiting. Think if it worked like like live cd that Linux can do.
Oh 100%.
Microsoft claimed ages ago when they made updates effectively mandatory (you can turn them off entirely or delay them by 27 day chunks forever on non-enterprise installs) that they would dynamically detect the times your computer wasn't actively being used and try to target that, but it never really made a difference besides "aim for when the computer is likely powered off anyway".
And that still doesn't hit the basic "is the user presenting in PowerPoint, running a full screen video/program?" sort of common freaking sense stuff you're talking about.
In some nicer news, Microsoft finally started trying to release some updates as "live updates" that don't require a reboot late last year. So maybe in a decade they'll get close to the Linux update experience.
I am so pleased i got out of IT at the peak of Windows 7. I have seen all i want to see about 10 and 11. Hard pass from me.
i never really even got in, now i dont even want to anymore
This isn't even a joke or hyperbolic.
The last straw for me was when Windows kept overwriting my boot loader. Fixed it by blowing away the Windows partition. Thanks for playing, we have a lovely parting gift for you!
Fixed it by blowing away the Windows partition.
That's how my dual booting experiment ended, as well.
Gotta tell you, it felt better than I expected. I was like, "Yeah! Suck it, Microsoft!" lol.
I felt that too!
I was a bit nervous, but mostly relieved not to worry that every boot into Windows could cost me my whole setup.
Now I'm going through a trying-not-to-preach phase. I just want my friends to feel as free of Microsoft's bullshit as I do.
It's funny that they have been doing the exact same for decades at this point.
Windows already fucked with the booloader when lilo was the default in every distro. They have no reason to learn, it's all part of the way.
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I mean, my first 30 seconds of experiencing Windows 11 was watching a coworker wait for the file manager to open + render its toolbar, so I don't think I could've really come to a different conclusion...
He should be glitching and stuttering for the full Windows experience
I remember seeing a video about if the matrix was run on windows. it was hilarious
edit: found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8yrOAjfKM
Literally tried to install windows 11 for our office machines last week.
- installed
- extremely slow and laggy
- check process manager
- just takes 3.7GB to boot up
- Uninstall and install win10 IoT LTSC and debloat it immediately
unfortunately Linux isn't yet an option because of microsoft office.
I have been managing with winboat for my office requirements.
Is there no hiccups? Because if I want to roll it out in our organization and switch to linux, I really need it to be perfect and fool proof (people that dont know what an OS is will be using it of course)
I'd say it works such that any mildly technically competent person can use it.
The problem is that I know The absolute surface level nature of most people's technical ability.
The dual file system nature of winboat would probably cause you issues. All you have to do is save your work to the folder that you have shared between both os's, but equally, I know full well the majority of computer users don't know what a file or directory structure is.
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The best joke is when you install Edge on your friends Linux computer when they are not looking and they lose their shit. Like a war vet when fireworks go off.
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Me at work every frickin day
Me too, fam :(
5pm signals the end of my working day serving capitalism, but also i can go back to using FOSS
Double relief
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I was the same when I switched from W10 to W11. Now I'm mostly on Linux, except for work, audio and the occassional game unfortunately. The latter 2 I'm still using W10 for.
It's the smell.
It's gotten to the stage (on the same hardware) where my Linux OS runs amazing, audio is perfect, and the nVidia drivers work great.. And so do the Windows games via Proton; while my Windows11 OS keeps getting buggier and the NVidia driver displays windows dialogs with garbled text or black zigzags inside dialogs.
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No thats 45 min. 30 sec is way before you finally get the usb to boot on the 3rd time flashing it. Then you find out you need to look up the latest hacky shit needed to make an offline account
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