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... a Ford patent application titled "Systems and Methods to Repossess a Vehicle" was published by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) Feb. 23, although it was submitted to the agency Aug. 20, 2021.

The document describes using vehicles' built-in data connections to remotely disable "a functionality of one or more components of the vehicle," which would serve as warnings if the owner has missed car payments.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 58 minutes ago

How is this patentable? It's the most obvious thing ever. I saw people talking about it half a decade ago.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Time to start chaining the frame to a tree.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Learning from Sony I see. You don't own what you buy. It's just an extended rental. Remember when this (below) was a joke a decade ago? Feels inevitable now. You'll have to pay per passenger before you can start your ignition because your rental purchase only included your self, not your passengers. Subscribe now with my code FordSucksUDry and you'll get 1 free passenger with each month.

I would normally agree with you. However, in this particular described use case, ford is saying they'll disable it if you fail to meet your payme plan (or, in other words, you hadn't actually finished buying the vehicle, so technically, it's not yours). That said. They need to fuck off with this. They can come physically repo like a normal lender.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The silver lining to never learning to drive is that I don't have to deal with this nonsense.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Plot twist: the tech has now been applied to bicycles.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 1 points 19 minutes ago

Scooter superiority strikes again.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This kind of crazy shit is why my car is manual and has no connectivity except for an FM radio and an OBD port. Also, my other car is bikes.

Anyone remember Stelantis making cars that play you God damned ads when you stop? Yeah...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago

Oops! Our bad, you may continue driving down the 5 freeway! Thanks!

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 7 hours ago

Jim Farley has to go.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be but if this makes it harder for other companies to do this, it would be kinda funny lol

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

Exactly what I was thinking.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not driving anything made after 2010 for the rest of my life, if I can manage it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Neither am I, but remember that that's only a workaround, not a solution. The only actual solution to this shit is political.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's not really the only solution. It's just the least violent solution.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Even if something is violent, that doesn't make it stop being political.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

We need to break the integration between hardware and software. If a machine can run software, then the software must be owner-auditable and owner-replaceable. If it's not, then whoever owns the software will own the hardware forever.

We also need safe, reliable, standard software for machines, and we need laws that enforce that machines be compatible with standard software before they can be sold.

It's a tall order, but I think the only other option is to continue down the path of hardware with corporate-dictated expiration dates and built-in surveillance.

[–] content_educator_94@thelemmy.club 1 points 23 minutes ago

Yeah that makes sense

Make this shit the way it works please

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's not going to happen unless someone important dies because of it.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago

WIth the terrible safety record of cars, that may be more likely than you think.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm in the middle of driving a 2026 rental car for two weeks and it has a huge screen for maps, lane keep, adaptive cruise and all that. I hate the screen but like the other new features. The car still runs when it doesn't have cell service. I wonder if I could just open the dash, sever a connection for the SIM card and it still all work or if I would have to pass some voltage through where the sim is supposed to be to keep the ECU from detecting a fault? I can find wiring diagrams online but they don't list anything that seems gps or cellular sounding.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It may be as simple as pulling a fuse.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like it on the fuse box diagram or on the connector pin out. That was what I was hoping for

I would imagine the exact fuse would be hidden from true view, since they wouldn't want you to easily disable it. Google might help.