Hahaha get fucked i've worked remote since 2015.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2026
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I quit 2 jobs that had a RTO. One was Salesforce when they acquired Slack. The other was another software company that I still have an NDA with.
I'm never going back into the office. I rather make less money.
What's interesting is that I'm actually making more money doing remote because I don't need to commute or pay for lunches or happy hours anymore. Actual time spent at work calculated, I'm making 40% more $.
Sounds like advice I'd get from my Silent Gen parents, if they'd known what working from home was.
If it isn't about the work then TF is it about?
I go to work for MONEY. You pay to make you MONEY. For me to make you money, you need me to WORK
It is about the work.
Now pay me more
It's about an AI generated sense of accomplishment.
It's not wrong, but what it describes is ethically wrong in my opinion. Raises and promotions are less about work performance and more about performative theatre. Being chummy with management is often a better predictor of upward career trajectory.
Any decent manager knows better, but many managers became such by schmoozing their way up, so the cycle of incompetence continues.
Upper management isn't only about the work.
Yeah you can do the work, but also probably the person in the office can also do the work.
If the person in the office is the one interacting with the upper management more and the work is being done equally well between them and some unknown person that works remotely why would they hire the person you do not know?
The management position / next level probably entails more people skills and dealing with people so someone you have hardly ever spoken to might not have those skills but the person in the office they know can at least deal with people well.
Year 1: "incredibly productive"
Year 5: "not about the work"
I love how they freely admit that it has nothing to do with being good at your job and everything to do with schmoozing.
Like that's really the purpose of the company... manufacturing schmooze, so we need good schmoozers
Funny how, even in their weird masturbatory LinkedIn fever dreams, the person still ends up going from working in office five days a week, to four.
So apparently all of this was still worth it.
I love in office. Remote only are babies.
That's a lot of words to say "Office politics is important."
Remote workers know this. They aren't necessarily looking for a promotion, with more responsibilities, although everybody wants more money. Working remotely can already feel like a promotion.
And if I had to come in to the office a couple of days a week, I'd make sure that at least one of them was on the same day as my boss. Scheduling your office days against your boss' seems like you are deliberately avoiding them. If I were the boss, I'd certainly take it that way, and make sure we cross paths at least once a week.
But the remote worker has already made the calculation that working at home has advantages that outweigh promotions, and perhaps even raises. If they can get their 40 hour job done in 10-15 hours at home, they can devote that extra time to another job, or their hobby, or family, or training for the Olympics, or something.
Not spending 500$ per month on commute, or another 500 on food because no space in work fridge, Plus more sleep from no commute Is INSTANT value.
Or you can skip all that and leave after year 2 and get a better paying job.
I imagine most of this is actually true for a lot of companies. Not because it's a good or even sensible model. Because most companies are mismanaged due to rampant nepotism, among many other issues.
What percantage of managers you've met had any idea what they're doing?
Research is with me that they perceive employees at the office as more committed, promotion-worthy even though there’s no evidence for that. It’s just the people who are fine playing the ineffective corporate game.
Imo the problem is lack of structured evaluation systems that’s perpetuated by dinosaurs for managers, lazy and/or incompetent managers without context who don’t want structured evaluation systems, so they can keep stroking their egos instead of making the company perform better, wasting everybody’s time with this BS
I have no idea what office people do. From my research they sit in front of computers and write emails, frown at the occasional spreadsheet, and grow more irritated the more interaction they have to have with coworkers they don't want to copulate with.
They also get evasive and defensive when you ask them what their job title means.
If they can get paid to forward emails and avoid social interaction from home, thermodynamically, that seems more efficient. To me, at least.
Heehee this reads perfectly like a monologue from "Resident Alien" :D
Worked on both sides, some people are just email coordinators but often times what's actually happening in the office is planning. I've worked in manufacturing so the planning is forming contracts with suppliers for raw materials, planning the logistics of getting those raw materials from the supplier to the plant, scheduling time for PMs, scheduling people's shifts to process the raw materials, negotiating with customers, planning the logistics of getting the finished goods to your customers, ensuring compliance with governing body's, arbitrating employee grievances, ensuring that you're meeting the requirements of the industrial insurance policy, develop improvements to the processes, ensure compliance with corporate, audit the systems for improvement, maintain health and safety, manage budgets for literally everything the company does, and that's just off the top of my head. A good office in manufacturing at least isn't noticeable because everything is done and ready for production when they need it.
lol I read a lot of sarcastic tone and bitter cynicism in this poster before seeing your comment. And now I can’t unsee it.
Year 3: I get a new job that values my output instead of my physical location.
Year 4: I still laugh about the morons in managment.
LinkedIn is such wanker filled trash
I find it interesting how "the promotion" is an end in itself. No context, no details, just "the promotion". And you didn't get it! Tsk, tsk, tsk.
This "promotion as next obvious thing you want" needs to die. I don't want to go manage people and have told my manager that I'm happy in my current role and I don't want a promotion. He was quite happy to know he did not have to worry about that.
Of course, because promotion is the only way to get ahead, by taking on more responsibilities and managing other people, god forbid you'd get a raise just for being really good at what you do.
My last company had a cool pathway where you could become a "distinguished engineer" instead of a manager and get the same sort of huge salary and stock options. Unfortunately, my last company also liked to lay off huge swaths of engineers, particular those who were a year away from being eligible to become "distinguished engineers".
Find a company that has it. The evil silicon Valley tech bros almost all offer it. Senior, staff, senior staff, principal, distinguished, fellow...
This sadly aligns with my company. Remote workers remaining from before the forced return to office can’t get a promotion unless they move to a city with an official office. This is actually the stated company policy, not an unspoken policy.
you don't need to leave your job in order to start looking for a new one, you know that, right?
Also, looking for a job while working puts you in a powerful position.
Why are you not being a big enough suckass? Come on people why can't we just go back to the way things were when small minded narcissists ruled the workforce. When you are not around in person how am I going to get my narcissistic supply? Won't someone think of the narcissists?
/s...sorta
They don't show the alternative where he spent the commuting time applying for jobs.
With the comic style plagiarized here, I fully expected throwing a baby to be one of the steps...
Who stays at a job for 6 years? Almost everyone I know who is trying to climb the ladder changes companies at least every 3-4 years.
Object permamence this, object permamence that...
In short, either yer liked or not, your effectiveness doesn't matter. If boss cannot molest you 1v1 or stalk your ugly mug, you are worthless.
nobody connects to it the four days
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT I HATE THIS WORLD
It's trying to claim that the reason they got the promotion was they were physically in the building more than others. Because being seen is more important than doing the job
Ah ... a participation trophy based business strategy.
Don't to to the office. People who think up shit like the above are there.
I'm fully remote but I still have meetings and chat with my coworkers and boss all the time. I guess I'm doing it wrong 😅
Yes, but did you get "The Promotion" or just a raise??!??
Not having a conversation with my supervisor for months at a time is literally the dream.
Y'all got raises?
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