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“This was not reckless driving. This was murder,” the judge said before she read out Mackenzie Shirilla's verdict Monday afternoon.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 273 points 1 year ago (35 children)

The reason why they say this was murder:

Two weeks before the crash, she allegedly threatened to crash her vehicle when she was driving with Russo because she was upset over a disagreement they had. Russo called his mother and asked to be picked up, and a friend ended up retrieving him. In a phone call with Russo, the friend allegedly overheard Shirilla say, “I will crash this car right now,” prosecutors said in court documents.

This isn't a drunk driver, or a thrillseeker, this is someone with murderous intent.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago

Considering she was unconscious as well, sounds like it was a murder/suicide attempt.

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[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Fucking hell that is horrible. And of course she's the only one to survive. 100mph into a brick building has probably left her pretty physically fucked up and in constant pain. Hope she enjoys feeling that way in prison for the rest of her life.

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[–] kyden@l.cackl.io 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am truly sorry for the passengers. Lost life because of teenage perceived hardship is tragic.

From a different perspective, it seems incredibly impressive that anyone survived a deliberate head on collision with a brick wall (that appears to have barely buckled) at 100 MPH / 161 KMH.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for the Christianization of the speed units, God bless you

Survived and still standing on her feet...

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not just survived, but with everything intact. No missing limbs or massive head trauma. She's wildly lucky in that reguard.

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[–] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

More of this. Also let's start holding rich people accountable of crimes also.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Remind me why we allow teenagers to drive 3-ton vehicles again?

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago

"Gotta get them teens to work. And no public transit options please, they make my money pile smaller."

-CEO's everywhere

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Why do we allow most people to drive 3 ton vehicles

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[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Because the vast majority of them don't use the 3ton vehicle to commit murder.

You do know that adults use vehicles as murder weapons also, yeah?

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[–] _wintermute@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The same reason we all have a personal 3 ton vehicle: to ensure we remain bound to a culture of sprawling roads and fossil fuel consumption.

[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 10 points 1 year ago

When I think back to how immature and reckless I was as a teenager I can't believe I was legally allowed to drive and considered a full grown adult at the age of 18.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prosecutor: What gear were you in at the moment of impact?

Defendant: Gucci sweats and Reebok Classics.

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[–] kite@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are a lot of people in this post spouting their opinion on an article they very clearly did not read.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The mum of one of the dead put it well - justice was served but nobody won today.

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[–] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Jesus, I sympathize, this is awful...i was t-boned by a teen going 85 mph, I wish my attorneys had the same teeth this judge does

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[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wow the way she's crying is disgusting, she's just sorry for herself not for the deaths she caused. No remorse, only regret for getting sentenced

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Wow the way she’s crying is disgusting, she’s just sorry for herself not for the deaths she caused. No remorse, only regret for getting sentenced

How do you know that? I don’t know about you but I’ve done things in anger that I felt genuine remorse for later.

Never killed anyone though, I suppose.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone with a legal background able to help me understand how two deaths resulted in 4 murder convictions and 2 vehicular homicide convictions?

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can say she was convicted of two counts of both R.C. 2903.02(A) & (B)—basically "normal" murder and felony murder. Clearly they thought she did it on purpose and because she was committing another felony. I can't say why those don't merge together under Ohio law or if they are supposed to. Ohio is a fairly statutory state, so maybe they overwrite that common law rule?

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Buffalox @MicroWave

Often the driver does survive catastrophic accidents vs front passengers.

https://emj.bmj.com/content/21/2/197

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Thank you, but that's a lot of reading for a simple question.

Statistical analysis was by χ2 test; a p value of less than 0.05 was assumed to correlate with a significant difference in rates of injury.

Oh yes it's all clear to me now.

I know it used to be like that before air bags and safety belts, because the steering wheel takes some of the blow in frontal collisions. But such dramatic difference I suspected she might have made the collision worse for the passengers on purpose.

PS She is probably a narcissist: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12417047/Mackenzie-Shirilla-TikTok-doing-drugs-not-dying-jailed-murdering-boyfriend-friend-drugged-100mph-crash.html

PPS: The article I found describes that her survival was miraculous, and she had surgery.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yes it's all clear to me now.

The p value is effectively the % chance something happened by coincidence, and not because of a real effect. Like flipping a coin and getting the same side several times in a row. P value is an assessment of that likelihood. Less than .05 means a less than 5% chance of that. I don't know what the other bit is, except it was likely a method of statistical analysis.

It's a way of saying that the results they found were very unlikely to be due to chance.

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