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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

But... it smells so good :(

Uh oh, the right-wingers are gonna lose their shit again.

[–] Toga77@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago

And via the power of a hepa air filter/opening your fucking windows, I have solved this "problem".

Also let's not get into the fact that cooking itself releases all manner of things that aren't really breathable.

This reads like more bullshit.

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why gas stoves are still the default. When you step back and think about it its crazy that we still have an appliance which produces an open flame in our homes. Not to mention that it's one of the most used things in the house (probably).

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Once You get access to (pipes), it's commonly way cheaper. Extra cheaper if You have old house, made with old tech that would be extra expensive to turn into electric heating.

If You have fair income, ok, go full electric, but for many who lives from check to check in many areas, the gas do matter.

The difference may be quite big if You live in country without fairly cheap nuclear energy, unsure i'd call green energy extra cheap. Then often mining lobby may do harm even to gov, to keep unclean and expensive energy as main source of any electricity.

Also is gas so default? Afaik, if some gonna build whole building, within new tech, it is more common to go full electricity, without any gas connection - many decide to skip getting pipes (save lots once), even if that would mean paying slightly more (per year, long term, but who knows future prices, for how long calculations).

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Gas companies push gas stoves and dryers because once you have those comparatively low usage devices they can sell you on gas water heaters and furnaces which are the real money makers for them.

Also, a lot of older homes don't have a high enough amperage on their electric service to power a bunch of 240V devices. But there's no excuse for new builds outside of the local grid not being able to handle it.

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Can we say, how much of that was written by electric stove lobby? Are the researchers really independent?

Can we say, mining gas, transporting it to houses and burning in small amount is so worse than mining same gas, burning lot of them in power plant (one energy transformation lose, physics), then turning electricity into hear (another energy transformation lose)?

Much may depends on places You live, but what if electric stove is way more expensive in use than gas (to some, it is)?

I'd like to believe that electricity is much better coz it is more comfy, but won't ignore global eco nor personal wallet aspects.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes, we can with 100% certainty say gas stoves are worse for people than electric stoves just like any small gaa engine is worse than a comparable electric engine.

This is not a hard concept and if you'd like it explained in more detail I'd happily do so. It is important to me that more people understand the benefits of electrification not just for my benefit but for theirs.

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 hour ago

I mean, i do not doubt, burning anything, includes gas at stoves, do make, do pollute. That much is basic.

But is that pollution amount really so big, that affect our health in so big way, as article suggest? or maybe just keeping window open twice a day, or cook in not-tiny room is enough to minimize health issues below noticeable - while some lobby trying to lie to us and make us buy stuff?

[–] philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Believe it or not, but breathing in combustion products really isn't great for you.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 19 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The number of "adults" I have met who do not think they need to run the vent and/or open a window while burning gas in their homes is deeply troubling.

[–] Toga77@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You should open the window regardless of gas.

Cooking is not an environmentally friendly action lol, and it also releases plenty of bad shit for you to breathe.

Life isn't perfect guys, sorry bout it.

[–] onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Routing our range hood to vent outside is the single best upgrade we've done to our house (but also the most annoying to DIY). I'd love to have induction but with gas the outside vented range makes the issue non existent.

Even with electric, range hoods should be required to vent outside always. I don't know why it's still legal to build homes that vent inside.

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It isn't legal to build new homes that vent to the inside. In the US, there is no national build code, only states regulate code. But all states default to some minimum year of the ICC codes. At this point there are no remaining states where it is legal to have a new build vented inside.

This isn't to say though that some states were late to adopt a minimum year that finally included it and maybe your semi-new-ish house just barely fell under old regulations when it was built. That said, cities can also enforce a higher code if the building is being rented out and needs to have an occupancy license and may force an owner to do the upgrade before renting out.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Huh never realized that for gas but makes sense. Parents had a gas stove that I hated turning it on as a teen cause if it didn't light I felt like I had to wait some time, don't recall thinking of the fan even then which would have been the obvious solution but then I wouldn't be sure the gas hasn't accumulated cause well no Google back then to check.

Usually gave it like 4 clicks (of the spark trying to light it) if not lit then wait a bit. I sort of wish I understood gasses better, even if I knew high school chemistry well at the time. Never had a gas one since I've been adult to think of that part.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The gas wouldn't have gone upwards into the vent. It's a heavy molecule for starters, but also just depressurized on release, making it colder. It'd sink down. The reason the vent is important when running is because the gas fumes are going to be significantly heated and rise via convection.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago

It's pressurized though. It's basically sprayed upwards in a cooktop, it's not going to rise but it'll mix into to the air for a good while

[–] Chrglstr143@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And heat is hot. Who would have thought that having a gas canister in your home and having it burn natural gas INSIDE of your home could somehow worsen indoor air quality. Why don’t we just put our gas grill inside as well because clearly big electricity is just spreading fake news that gas is bad.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago

but there is NO SMOKE

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Big electric is trying to ban gas stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor gas stoves that we assemble here in america with parts imported from china"

  • this statement funded by the North American Natural Gas Cartel
[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

"Big electric is trying to ban gas stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor gas stoves!" Big gas -2020

"Big gas is trying to ban coal stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor coal stoves!" Big coal -1920

"Big coal is trying to ban wood stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor wood stoves!" Big wood -1820

...

"Big fire is trying to ban raw food again and cancel your god given right to tear raw flesh with your teeth!"

Cave man John -60,000 bc.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 50 points 1 day ago

Yes but if you don't get diabetes, asthma and cancer the communists will win so shut up and cook your hamburger helper on a gas stove using PFAS-ladden pan like daddy Trump wants you to.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Gas stoves are also linked to slightly higher cancer rates. But dammit, gas stoves rule. I spent so long cooking with nonstick pans on electric stoves. Now I've got cast iron on a gas range and everything is better and easier.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

gas stoves rule

I used to say that also but dammit, induction stoves are even better. The clear winner is my pasta pot on the big burner boils water significantly faster than gas used to

Actually I’ve noticed fairly frequently that I no longer have time to prep while things are getting up to temp - I’ve had to change my habits to do essentially all prep ahead of time (ok the pasta water still takes a bit but instead of turning it on high before doing prep, I use medium high to give me more time)

Some people have problems with their cookware, but I was already using cast iron, which works beautifully, and multilayer stainless which works beautifully. I do keep a couple non-stick skillets for eggs, or visitors to use, and had to get special ones since most won’t work.

The only real problem with induction is it isn’t commonly available (in the US), and can be expensive. I paid way more than I wanted to, because induction and air fryer which I wanted, only came with “smart” and double oven which I didn’t want to pay for …… and I never did see a floor model so had to buy without actually seeing it

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

induction stoves are great if the pan fits the coil and has a perfectly flat bottom.

With oversized pan they get horrid hot spots, and for something like a Wok they just don't work.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Horrid may be the wrong word, but yes if you put a big pan on a small coil it will heat unevenly. It’s more noticeable in skillets where you’re trying to sear something.

Yes I’ve noticed that

  • putting a 12” skillet on a coil sized for 10” does not cook well around the edges
  • putting a 12” stock pot on a coil sized for 10” takes longer to boil.

You could just…. Not do that

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Electric stoves come in two forms though: ceramic, where you have an old-fashioned spiral which heats up the plate your pan sits on and plainly sucks imho. Or induction which heats your pan directly though an electromagnetic field. The latter is more efficient and modern cast iron pans work perfectly fine on them, no need for an enamel coating

Last few years I alternated between induction and gas due to moving around, induction is a clear winner for me.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh most induction ones are also ceramic though, and not all old-fashioned ones are.

I think you mean resistive vs induction, not ceramic vs induction

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

We call old-fashioned stoves with a resistive spiral a ceramic plate here, while induction stoves are never referred to as a ceramic plate. Might not be technically correct, but that's language for you I guess.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, apparently in English ceramic stovetops are only called ceramic when there's a resistive spiral lol, didn't know.

It's funny because the ceramic refers to the glass, which is quite literally the same for induction.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

In my case Dutch, never realised it might differ across languages. Although in hindsight it makes sense, like you said: it's all ceramic.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You forgot IR, which was the 'cool' electric stoves during the 80s through late 00s when induction came about and took it's spot.

Edit: and also Coil stoves (which what I thought you meant with Ceramic, but that's the slightly more upmarket version) which are the absolute worst and the standard 'landlord special' in Australia.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

I’m a convert. Induction is so much better. Heats cast iron like you wouldn’t believe.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 20 points 1 day ago

Try induction. It's so much better than standard electric, and in my opinion, also better than gas.

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