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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago

Now this is a political ad campaign.

Bravo.

The current sitting President is a multiple convicted felon, for, you know, actual heinous crimes.

That line has been crossed.

When tyranny becomes law, crime becomes a duty, a public service.

I can't say I know or agree with the entirety of this guy's politics and policies, but goddamn if this is not very clever free marketing for himself.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'll vote for the candidate who shoots down the most Flock devices (cameras, drones, ~~executives~~ et cetera).

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is a terrible, myopic way to decide who becomes your representative, and I'm honestly sad Lemmy is even upvoting this.

You need a points system, otherwise everyone's going to min–max on the low-hanging fruit. "The most" is too basic a metric, but of course as always, Lemmy doesn't understand the practical realities of politics.

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Total height of cameras removed

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so like the ones atop skyscrapers are worth more? i like it.

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I figure it scales with effort.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

i reckon so. seems like a plan to me.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the ones on private property like mall parking lots are worth the most by far.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The executives? I dunno, I feel like they'd be worth more if done on a public sidewalk. For tradition's sake.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or like, dropped from a plane with no parachute.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

The bottom of the sea was a good one too.

Don't want people to completely ignore the easy ones though. Maybe eligibility for the high-value target bonus is unlocked by taking down a certain number of the common (low-hanging fruit) devices. Track everyone's stats, work out the daily average, make that the cut-off so anyone below that number gets a reduced award instead of handing it to cherry-pickers. Some kind of MMORPG-inspired mechanic like that.

[–] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every flock camera is 1 point, every firebombed data center or Tesla manufacturer is 5. Winner gets my vote!

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think a firebombed data centre is worth at least 20 points

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's logarithmic, 20 points for crashing a SpaceX rocket into a data center.

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 13 points 2 days ago

Hey, we can re-use those "I'm voting for the convicted felon" t-shirts!

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago

I only know one thing about this man and I like it.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 days ago

Elect him now

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Those bullets have to land somewhere. Use a hacksaw instead.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That conditional is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cute, but skill issues with guns put people in the hospital.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it is what one might refer to as… a joke.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

That's why I called it cute. If I thought someone was actually encouraging firearms-based vandalism and dismissing the public hazard that would create, I would have called it reprehensible.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ricochet and penetration can happen even if you're on target. The thin shielding of these cameras isn't going to do much to stop a bullet. There's certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 7 points 3 days ago (8 children)

A shotgun with medium-weight birdshot would work well and wouldn't pose much risk of bullets falling on people. (Birdshot is too light to hold much velocity for long, and even if pellets hit people when coming back down, they'll be small enough and moving slow enough to be harmless.)

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

There's certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

Maybe, but we’re talking about Tennessee

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Eh, bird shot would likely be enough to fuck a camera up and is highly unlikely to damage anything on the way down.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

That's not how we do it in TN

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago

Shotgun with birdshot would be safe.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Trump can be elected after his crimes, so can this man.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but Donvict didn't conduct his crimes against property like this guy.

To hear the cons tell it, BLM riots set entire cities on fire, and the property of businesses were harmed. This, plus mandated shutdowns were the "real" crimes we should have all been more concerned about, as opposed to murder-by-cop or a bungled Covid response that kill a huge surplus of Americans that didn't have to die.

I'm just sayin' - the cons tend to place far more value on property. If Donvict raped some children and some women that's gonna be met with a collective yawn by the conservatives because no property or businesses were harmed...

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I was just about to post this!

[–] ohmy_science@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The hero we need.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Idk his ballotopedia page reads like a typical spurned republican but bravo

[–] sculptor0725@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wonder why he admitted to it 🤔 coerced?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're supposed to admit to your actions openly for civil disobedience. It gives you standing to challenge and opportunity to drag things to light. Even now, everyone being tried for this creates headlines that unattributed destruction does not

At higher levels, it can also clog the justice system and make it expensive to continue targeted policies

Without all that, it's just property destruction. Flock could probably have examples made of people caught (seeing as somehow they seem able to sidestep the law), but that frames the issue in a better way for flock

Taking the justice system head on is just a much more effective method of forcing change... Granted at a personal cost, although getting caught by the big brother machines themselves seems likely

Or it could be for political advantage...I mean, the cameras are wildly unpopular and badasses who cut (or shoot) through red tape are very much currently in style

[–] sculptor0725@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Without all that, it's just property destruction.

Counterpoint: wage war against the State and Capital.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

Counterpoint - that's ineffective messaging. It doesn't win over people not already on board

Instead, if you focus on concrete material conditions, like affordability and healthcare, nearly everyone agrees. Or in the case of flock, you roll it in with datacenters and the AI bubble in general

Winning under a banner of socialism is impractical, but socialist policies are rapidly rising in popularity across the board. If it goes down easier calling it progressivism, who cares? I just want good things

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why is a simple act of vandalism a felony?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Vandalism generally rises to a felony if the property damage exceeds a certain monetary threshold. This is similar to classes of theft.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It probably has something to do with using a gun.

The 2nd amendment only protects your right to purchase and own a gun. Not only is using a gun often illegal, it's grounds for summery execution. You know, freedom.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its the dollar amount the gun stuff would generally be separate charges. Sort of like theft over $500 is a a felony but not under. Of course that varies state to state.

I'm surprised they didn't hit him with "unlawful discharge of a firearm" because that is what this is. Or "commiting a felony with a firearm" charges.

Still agree with it though!

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

The AI "editing" is really coming through strongly in this article.

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