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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Girl if you don't know the difference between the Ottoman and the Byzantine empires just know that you instruction is seriously lacking.

EDIT: education for instruction

[–] burgermeister@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One kicked their feet up all day,the other was really Byzzy all the time.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lots of bad educational systems out there.

And you know what tbh a lot of it has to do with bad teachers. I had horrible history teachers, like many others. I remember hearing about the Byzantine empire, holy Roman empire, Ottoman empire in middle school... But it never really meant shit to me other than some names and dates to memorize, which I forgot a year later.

But I've played video games like Civ and Crusader Kings and heroes of iron where I start reading nation/empire descriptions, start googling and reading Wikipedia, start reading on random shit like WW1 no man's land and I'm fascinated by all the craziness in history. The Ottoman Empire was fucking massive and had sultans, and it wasn't even that fucking long ago!

I was taught so much in history classes that I didn't really understand until I developed an interest in them, like the Punic wars. This stuff is fascinating and it's taught so horribly.

[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 3 points 1 week ago

I heard the Ottomans were sick, man!

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

But I’ve played video games like Civ and Crusader Kings and heroes of iron where I start reading nation/empire descriptions, start googling and reading Wikipedia, start reading on random shit like WW1 no man’s land and I’m fascinated by all the craziness in history. The Ottoman Empire was fucking massive and had sultans, and it wasn’t even that fucking long ago!

These games inspired a lot of history lessons for me as well. Sometimes there's bad teachers and gaps in learning for all of us.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago

I agree with you. Education systems play a big role in wether people are educated or not and everything can't be blame on individual but we should accept it as normal and say such things as OOP.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Chelsea Handler had on this very stoned and very bored long-haired rocker who was kind of grunting replies to her questions.

She went on talking about Nicragua for some reason, then said "It turns out Nicaragua is right next to Honduras. Did you know that?"

Rocker: Yeah, sure.

Handler, genuinely surprised: Huh? Why do you know that?

Rocker: Because I was educated in England.

It was noel fielding (goth comedian), and he was replying to Handler asking how he knew Nicaragua existed.

It was a pretty funny bit. Stoned, I couldn't say, but I think he's just like that.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

So was I, and the exact location of Nicaragua and Honduras did not come up.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sure but it's more fun to just make fun of Civ V players

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Byzantine Empire as a term is a modern construct that obfuscates the glory of Rome and it's inheritors (Finland)

Helsinki is the true Rome.

[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago

The Empire never ended.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's why I only date Venetians

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I only swipe right if our marriage means that my great-great-grandchild can potentially inherit the Holy Roman Empire

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

You like chins?

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Only people on the Sumerian king list

[–] FavouriteShapes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is a profoundly easy distinction, perhaps the easiest historical state distinction EVER.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

If you're not helping me carve up France for the glory of Orthodox HRE, what are we even doing?

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

If she already knows that info, aren't they then very compatible because she must also be a map video game addict?

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

girls if he knows the difference between the present tense and the future tense just know you are the side hoe to his Wordle addiction

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Instructions unclear, they said

"It's the same difference between Han and Qing Dynasties, they were a different ethnicity and administration too, but why do we consider China to historically be one country that splits and unifies again instead of a new nation each time? Ottomans called themselves Rome too, does academic nuance only extend to Europe? Why do we neglect eastern history? In this essay, I will...."

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

Gurl, you better up your game and help the bro bring glorious tengriism to the entire west of yurop!

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

... I mean yeah.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Kind of an odd trend where women are promoting the idea that women aren't supposed to know much about history and it's just a man thing. "Hey girls, isn't it kinda strange that men know things about history? It's so weird, but kinda cute I guess LOL!"

Seems a little regressive to me.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What's even similar about those two?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ottomans tried calling themselves Rome at some point.

Also about two months ago, I read an old French essay from 1800s where author says something along the lines of "even the emperor of constantinople fell weak with the passage of time," and I went MAD trying to figure out if they mean the sick man of europe or the dead.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Geographically based around modern day Türkiye?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Istanbul was once Constantinople

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago

That's nobody's business but the Turks.

Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks

[–] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She's dry and so transactional realpolitik and everyone gets a turn, most of them really into genocide?

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago