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[–] gray@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

I am super into communism, but some of the memes about it here are so low quality

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

" mccarthyism"

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey that's not fair. If you say "Capitalism" you can also get plenty of attention!

[–] DeLancre@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago

Attention for free? What is this, a communism?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Communism relies too much on people being decent, hard working and intelligent so it'd never work out.

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And capitalism relies too much on people being selfish, lazy and stupid sooooo.... It's working?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

working as intended

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here are 5 Stalin Bucks for your contribution to the discussion.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's just capitalism with state control

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 11 hours ago

It's the USSR too

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's social democratic communism.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

That's some tasty word salad!

[–] CultuurMarxist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you think communism is people bring nice to each other.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with the cum fart (Seriously).

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Markets incentivize and reward selfish behavior. A different system would incentivize different behaviors.

I swear, it's like we're stuck in the 20th century when it comes to this. Think about it like designing a multiplayer game. Throw a thousand people in a RUST server, they'll behave one way. Throw that same thousand into Deep Rock Galactic, they behave completely differently.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I mean, I feel like you are weirdly close to my view. Incentives matter.

I'm not sure why you think that markets are inherently bad, though, or what incentive structure you think would be a better alternative.

Personally, my view is that markets are a naturally occurring phenomenon in any sufficiently large and complex human society, and if we try to design a society without them, we will simply create bad outcomes, like the rise of a wealthy and powerful criminal class.

My view is that, absent a better (and importantly, proven) structure, the best structure we have yet developed integrates markets into society in a pro-social manner. We allow legal markets, but create rules and guardrails to align incentives, so that the individual's work benefits both themselves and society as a whole.

An analogy I like is that of a river. A completely unregulated river will ebb and flow, often help water your crops, and sometimes overflow its banks and flood your home. If you try to completely remove the river, it will not disappear - it will simply build up and overflow, causing greater floods, and depriving everyone of water. If you create a huge dam and completely control water flow, then the water will flow very consistently and you can avoid floods, but you will disrupt local water ecology, lose a lot of water to evaporation, and risk an enourmous calamity if the damn ever fails. A large dam might be the correct solution some of the time, but typically the best solution is to let the river flow mostly freely, while building small dams for water reservoirs and power generation and levees near population centers to protect against flooding. It is not just necessary but beneficial to let the river flow, but we must also protect society from its excesses.

So, too, with markets. They are going to happen, and they provide a lot of benefits to a lot of people. But the people and the government must be protected from its excesses. We can allow people to build and own a taco truck or a cement factory or a software product and make money on it, but we can create protections, incentives, and regulations so they don't sell us toxic food, exploit workers, or buy elections and control politicians.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is that why communist states have an authoritarian leader?

To keep the commies in line?

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

communist state is like triangular circle

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Sure, but before you get to communism there's socialism, which has a worker state.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Careful, that kind of talk gets you banned on .ml

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Imagine that - a bullet that dodges you!

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no true communism present in the world.

Calling something "communist" doesn't make it so.

Hitler called his party "socialist". It was not.

We call our country a democracy.

It's an oligarchy.

[–] CultuurMarxist@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's so we can kill as many people as effectively as possible.

Serious answer all revolutions limited to a single region or country collapse into reactionary autoritarianism because you can't build a post capitalist country surrounded by capitalist countries without experiencing some imperialism.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Aren't you worried that the earth will collapse into reactionary autoritarianism being surrounded by capitalist planets as it is?

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Capitalism relies on money, if you have enough its OK not being decent, lazy and a dumb fuck.

We're onto something here...

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Real communist discussion has never been tried.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True communism looks cool on paper but just doesn’t deliver on execution

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

It's a great idea. I would definitely support it. The problem is that there's no magic impartial arbiter overseeing society and making sure that all things are genuinely distributed or accessible fairly to all.

No matter what specific thing you put a person or group of people in charge of doing that with it gives them opportunity for corruption for personal gain. All economic ideologies have that same problem, humans are in charge of actually running them.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's definitely weird. I wasn't expecting "Welcome to Lemmy!... don't mind them, that's just our cult."

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

I guess we're not supposed to mention the cults, or the cult members get angry.

It's so weird here, if you accidentally wander into a post from the wrong instance you can make a completely non offensive comment and have 30 people shrieking at you that you're hateful and evil and should die.

Pointing out the irony in acting that way to a random stranger on the internet never helps.

Pay attention to me comrade senpai

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cumminist. Everyome's cum belongs to everyone.

The gooners own the means of cum production

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago