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Either we do it, or one of the dumbest people in the world who started a war he could not win is going to do it.
I don't think this is as good of an argument as he seems to think it is.
Or to put it another way:
If I don't eat this day old roadkill, RFK Jr will
And by "we" Doug means American corporations. The Meta data center getting built near me isn't Canadian.
Exactly. One caller during a CBC phone in show was saying how he thought it was good for Canada to get into AI and build our skills so we're more competitive.
I was like... dude... this is Meta's data centre, the only Canadians employed will be a handfull of DC techs and maintenance staff. ALL the real work is being done remotely. These are literally here just to burn fossel fules at an incredible rate. Thats it.
"If we don't build it someone else will" Great, let them then. The only people who benifit here are the construction and gas companies, then the environment suffers for however long they run. If someone wants to build and environmentally sustainable DC then cool, I'm all ears, but that's never what's being proposed. We're in hyperscale mode here, the only thing that matters is speed and dropping a box down ontop of a natural gas reserve is as fast as it gets.
send your roadkill penises to Ford, now, so he can pause datacenters.
"Donald Trump thinks this is a good project."
Ok. Ok. Interesting way to sell it.
So let them do it. None of these are going to bring anything into our economy once built. They are all american companies and there are very few jobs in a data centre.
That last part is key. Data centres use up a huge amount of real estate and produce incredible strain on local infrastructure, but they produce an incredibly small amount of employment. It's mostly just a few low-wage security guards. You could fit dozens of other businesses, employing thousands of people, into the space taken up by one data center.
Only the sith speak in false dilemmas.
he resembles baron more.
Not much of a threat.
hes looking for the paycheques, from the techbros.
Nah.
We're bringing guillotines to the town meetings down here too.
Either we destroy the world, or Donald trump is going to do it!
Elbows out now replaced by KNEEPADS BACK ON.
If we ain't sucking American corporate dick, then life's not worth it.
The companies currently lining up for AI data centers are pretty well all American techno-fascists. Those techno fascist corporations will have zero issue using whatever datacenters offer the cheapest rates, and the easiest regulations -- and as they're all making moves to establish 'freedom cities' where there are no government regulations curtailing their activities, those are the most likely places these datacenters will eventually go. Even the existing batches of datacenters are largely moving to areas with government incentives for the construction.
Without a healthy AI market/industry in Canada, with the benefits going to Canadians, the case for spending a shitload of resources on the infrastructure the Americans want isn't really prudent. Especially as we can clearly see at the moment, how committed the Americans are to friendly trade relations.
Oh please speak publicly abt this Doug. Let's see how such a real galvanizing issue works out for you.
By that logic raping little girls, bombing hospitals and defrauding taxpayers are also options.
Maybe don't use that logic.
Trump is going to do what? Lean hard into a bubble before it pops? Great, let him do that. Let's not compete with him on being as stupid as possible.
Doug, have you solved all the crises facing the people you represent? Is this really the most pressing business you can think of? New York city is making all you capitalist ass lickers look so obvious when you care more about data centers than poverty, housing, food security, education, healthcare, and, I guess very relevant to the current discussion, the environment.
Spoken like a true tyrant.
This guy has got to go
Is that a threat?
If you don't light the datacenter on fire, someone else will.
Or we could just ban the use of AI.
Is he ensuring none of these AI companies have US investors/ownership?
I hear there's some land around the etobicoke region where some fat fuck has yearly bbq's for other idiots.
I'm fine with that.
Fingers crossed a whack of server racks fall on ~~Trump~~ Ford and ends his fat fucking useless life while heβs visiting one of these MAGA flock data centres.
Truly, I hope he dies and dies painfully
Ontario is facing extreme 30c/kwh electricity rates starting in 2027, due to nuclear refurbishments, but most of it is paid for with taxpayer debt. OPG, generally gets to charge rate payers for network expansion, so ensuring all those costs are paid by datacenter would be minimum.
It's unclear if this would raise or lower rates for rate/tax payers. Rates are extreme due to less than full capacity utilization, and the other condition for datacenters would be that they pay the full unsubsizized rate (30c/kwh) and get cut off during scarcity events.
wth, is the connection to Trump? He will raise tarriffs more if Ford refuses?