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[–] betelplouf@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In Europe (or at least in France), it's mandatory to put the nutritionnal informations per 100g. It avoids that kind of stupid things

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The downside there is that if it's, like, Marmite, you'll never ever eat 100g in one sitting. So, you have to do a bunch of math to figure out how much salt is in the actual smear you're using.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

We do have both on packages, per 100g and per serving, but we don't have anything wich is a nanogram per serving containing a couple billion servings in a bottle unless it's anti matter

[–] J92@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its at least more accurate than the maths of trying to multiply by the purported zero on a can of avocado oil.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. They should require a certain number of significant digits, as opposed to just the nearest integer. Although someone's saying that they actually let you round down from as many as 5 to 0, which is insane if true.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Iirc they let you say something has 0 grams of trans fat if it’s less than 5 grams per serving.

[–] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's be honest I'm guessing nearly every country does this

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canada, at least, follows the US convention on this one. IIRC serving sizes are set by the government, though, if that's any different.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

You, too, are 0 calories if we eat you in small enough bites.

[–] foxfell@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The more interesting why is this in Metric, not in stones, oz, cups or other funny system they're using.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So it would take like 6.3 minutes of just holding down the button to fully empty the can ?

I don’t believe it

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

If you did it in 1/4 second bursts it might, probably longer even as fatigue in your hands will slow you down.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So according to this it has 884 calories per 100g. So 1g has 8.84 calories, and 1/4 of that has 2.2 calories.

So they can't even pretend to have rounded down to 0 from a fraction of a calorie. Apparently it's also loaded with saturated fats. Which tracks since it's, ya'know, oil.

[–] Briguy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The FDA lets anything under 5 calories to be rounded down to 0. It's a scam

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WTF. Like, sure, if you say "no decimal calories needed" it would make sense at the time, and could lead to this by accident. But that's just silly.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Ah so if I just use a table spoon then is still 0! Free oil! (Don't tell Americans.)

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What institution in your country ISN'T a piece of shit owned by Big Coconut Oil????

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

To be fair, caloric measurement is always an approximation. No two servings will ever have the exact same number of calories. Even if they did, different gut biomes will also feed on those macronutrients to different extents. Couple that with everyone having different metabolic rates, and 2 calories is indistinguishable from a rounding error.

And the guidance from the FDA reinforces this. The reason this panel shows 0 instead of 2 is not because anyone screwed up or is trying to mislead; it's because any serving that provides less than 5 calories is supposed to be rounded to 0 per FDA regulation.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

They have some of the best accessibility regulations in the world.

[–] femmylemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I could be wrong but I believe they can round to the nearest 5 calories.

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[–] Thorry@feddit.org 300 points 2 days ago (34 children)

In civilized countries the nutrition facts need to be stated in both serving size and 100 grams. This makes it easier to compare products with different serving sizes and also prevents bullshit like this.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Serving size is generally speaking complete bullshit regardless. Per 100g is sufficient

The other day I bought a cookie that was 200 calories per serving, with a serving size being half a cookie lmfao

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Serving size has a lot of use cases, especially when looking at things individually packaged or in separate units (cookies for example).

Per 100g has fewer use cases in my mind as I'm not a scale and have no idea how to break down most products into 100g.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You do the other way around, you see the total weight of the thing, you guesstimate how much you are gonna eat and you do the math. Half of 500g is 250, so x2.5 whatever is on the 100g nutritional panel.

It's not about when you would use the per 100g it's about 100g being easy to be transformed into other units so you get an easy multiplier you can apply to the values.

I always used the 100g as percentage since the rest of the nutrients is also listed as g. So if there is 9g of protein per 100g, then i can just make an easy approximation for whatever the serving is.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

the first time I saw a nutrition label like that was, I think, in Ireland. Absolutely blew my mind how staggeringly useful it was in comparing different foods since there's that common quantity across all of them.

I really wish we had that in the US.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (8 children)

And legally, they are right. One serving is very, very small, and therefore, one serving is considered to have no [whatever].

Just like TicTacs. They are 100% sugar to a rounding error, but as the "serving size" is one TicTac, which weighs less than half a gram, it is legally considered "sugar free".

Which tells a lot about the real value of "legally".

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 21 points 2 days ago (9 children)

And who the fuck cares about calories in serving size?

What about a better standard like calories per 100g?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You must consider, the info here isn't random, it's legally required by the FDA or state regulator. They have to follow the guidelines for packaging labelling requirements precisely. When the serving size is very small, the numbers are misleading. But some manufacturers also use ridiculous serving sizes to fudge the numbers.

Thats why in Australia, they are required to publish two or three columns of data. Per Serving (which can be skipped if the item is clearly just one serving), per 100g (even if the whole thing is less than 100g net, it makes figureing out percentages easier) and sometimes per whole package.

I'm not going to eat 12 seperate portions over several days from this bag of chips just because it says that many on the bag. I know this. The manufacturer knows this. The regulator knows this. We all know I'm hoovering that bag clean in 20 minutes. So the manufacturer is forced to give me a number that is easily mathable so I can't hide the damage, even from myself.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Its a weird american thing I believe, since a serving size is so small that it counts as <1 calory.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yup, the "serving size" nonsense is a US corporate lobbied loophole which basically allows them to put whatever they want on their nutrition information.

I wouldn't have expected anything else from the US "Corporations are people too" of A.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 days ago (25 children)

It's zero calories per serving, of which there are over 1500 in that can. It's a rounding error. If each serving has say 0.2 calories, the whole can might contain 300.

Also, "1/4 second spray"

Are you using a fucking aerosol can of avocado oil? 🀨

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[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 48 points 2 days ago (5 children)

One thousand five hundred and thirty-two servings

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

lmao, that's so shameless. Avocado oil is one of the most calorie-dense food in existence.

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