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  • House Republicans are reviewing a bill that would overhaul the student-loan system.
  • It proposes limits on the education secretary for getting new forms of relief to borrowers.
  • Democrats introduced their own package to address student debt, but it's unlikely to advance.
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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Perfect ammo to use against them during campaigning

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 60 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats tried a tactic not too long ago that was literally just putting republicans actual positions in their ads , and it was rather effective

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When the Whitehouse Twitter account was out there reply-guying all the Maga whinging about student loan forgiveness with factual "So-and-so had $X of PPE loans forgiven" comments was just the best.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

That was so glorious. Not really something the White House account should be doing but it was at least highly entertaining.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago (5 children)

My wife was just notified that her 6 figure student loan was forgiven. We're still dazed and not sure it's real, or that it won't be overturned later.

She has been paying it for 20 years, fell for one of those refinancing scams that John Oliver did a segment on, where she was yelling "that's what they told me!!" the whole time. It seems impossible, but after 20 years of minimum payments without fail, $1400/mo at times, she still had well over 100k in student debt (phd).

We figured the refinancing into the wrong loan would disqualify her. We thought if she did get some relief, it would be 10-20k, which isn't nothing, but wouldn't change much.

And now it's wiped clean.

This is what relief feels like. We just signed a one year lease, but we'll be in a much better position to buy at the end of the lease (market permitting).

This is what the Republicans want to take away from the working class, so they can give the mega rich more tax breaks.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I'm so happy for you guys! I hope it sticks ❤️

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

I hope your life together only gets better from here. Remember how it was for you and that there will always be others who deserve help as well.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Hell yeah. Congrats bro. You two deserve it. Everyone in a similar situation does.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

This is what the Republicans want to take away from the working class, so they can give the mega rich more tax breaks.

This can't be repeated enough. You paid heavily for 20 years into a predatory loan, and they think you should continue paying heavily with no end date in sight.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Congrats. That must be extremely relieving. I know my wife's student debt brought her an insane amount of anxiety. We ended up rolling it into our mortgage when we refinanced. She had been paying it for over a decade and it was not paid down at all. She was debating not rolling it into our mortgage on the campaign promise of student loan forgiveness but I had zero trust that a divided congress would pass anything and was certain Republicans would do everything they could to block any unilateral attempt by Biden.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Man, Republicans sure love shooting themselves in the foot and tripling down on the worst types of policy.

[–] Kostyeah@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish this was the case, but they'll just drum up another culture was issue. My dad is like this with our conservative party. He'll complain about parks being rezoned for clear cutting, about insurance rates being uncapped, about electricity prices going up, but when it comes time to vote he votes for the party responsible for all this because "Trudeau is a socialist".

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah. It's a literal cult. Its a very bad situation all over the world, the right-wing conservatives of every country are losing their minds right in front of everybody.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I dunno, my conservative neighbors love this type of shit. They're convinced that everyone who has student loans is a freeloader who went to college to study underwater basket weaving.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People need to learn personal responsibility. We are all personally responsible for building the guillotines. And the sooner we start the better.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

These grifters do nothing to help anyone but themselves and their donors. The only legislation they put forward is for show with no chance of passing or is designed to hurt a minority of the population.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

because they cannot do anything productive themselves, they have to sabotage anything that might look good for the other side.. so "the other side" is the entire country by now, because this has been their entire game for years..

meanwhile school children go hungry and our allies are dying

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's how you Protect the Working Class! Instead of using Tax Dollars to GIVE them money you use Tax Dollars to make their Monthly Bills go UP!

[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's not like those Tax Dollars came from the Working Class in the first place!

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

These Republicans can't get their shit together enough to do the basic absolute minimum to run the gov't, but they'll fall over each other to screw citizens for some reason.

[–] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Caps student borrowing. According to the bill's fact sheet, the bill would cap student-loan borrowing at $50,000 for undergraduate students, $100,000 for graduate students, and $150,000 for students in graduate professional programs.

What four-year school can someone attend for $50,000? That was the yearly cost of attendance when I went to college twenty years ago. Granted, I attended an expensive private university, but I assume most schools have caught up in the past two decades.

Will this bill essentially price out low income kids?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

State schools are generally around that much for tuition. I think tuition here in Washington is around $10-12k per year for public university.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

20 years ago you could go to an in-state public school (without housing and food) for $5k/year in Indiana. Nowadays the same school has a tuition of $16k/year without housing. There are cheaper in-state universities going for around $10k/year, but that's still a minimum of $40k for 4 years without housing or food or car or health insurance or internet or utilities.

[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

They're called deplorable for a reason

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just a reminder: the person driving this effort is Virginia Foxx. You may remember her from HR 1313 which was a bill she pushed for that would allow health insurance companies access to your DNA to change your premiums. Where did she get this wonderfully dystopian plan? The health insurance companies setup a lobby/thinktank specifically to advance this bill and made contributions to her PAC. If it had passed it would have hollowed out GINA by allowing employers to terminate based solely on possible hirer premiums.

The woman is scum

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Democrats: Try to help people

Republicans: "Not on my watch!"

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hmmm 38% of Americans went to college. Bold move.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

That number's too high! That's why this bill needs to pass. Republicans rely on people being avoiding education.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Conservatives are cheering, though.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

All Biden has been doing is running a program established in the 2007 that he didn't run for his first 3 years in office.

Are they just trying to repeal that program?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

They still have failed to even HAVE a federal budget this fiscal year.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, it's kind of nice that the republicans are constantly so hellbent on reminding all of us what heartless bastards they are so that only the stupidest, most utterly hateful, and goldfish memory forgetful of the population could possibly want them in power.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Their voter base never went to college, so they see it as a win.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

But muh guns.