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Where is lawbreaking not just visible, but designed to be seen? Where is antisocial behaviour worn as a badge of honour? Where is pleasure gained directly from causing distress? And where is reckless endangerment often ignored by the police or treated with the mildest of punishments? The answer is on the roads.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

i see people switching lanes suddenly without warning is more dangerous.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe play up their petro-instability. Describe how much more aggressively they can drive with the massive instant torque of an EV, compared to their obsolete clanking collection of gears

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

I understand the academic roots and I'm sure the paper it was coined in is top tier sociology. But we have got to stop labeling bad shit as masculine, it only amplifies the behavior. The dude 6" off your bumper is not going to hear "petro-masculinity" and have a quiet contemplative moment about carbon emissions and road safety. He's going to feel scolded, hear that you're triggered and frightened of his masculinity, and then he's going to start driving even more aggressively out of spite. And nobody will stop him, because nobody with the power to do so cares. Hell, the cops themselves are often the ones who drive like this.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Is there any action that won't trigger spite from this type of person? Their entire existence consists of playing the victim and throwing tantrums because somebody advocated for something different to what they are used to.

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

This thread got me thinking. I think OP is correct that we need to stop doing the masculinity thing. If its a behavior change we are hoping for a better way to cause self reflection might be to use some of the noble features of what they think masculinity is. Does a protector drive like that and endanger everyone? Other peoples families / kids are also on the road. Would someone trust you to drive their loved ones around? Dont you want to be the guy everyone can count on to do the right thing and get us back safe?

Hey man I saw you pull into the lot the other day. I was surprised cause don't act like you would drive that way. Make them question how they are being perceived. A little manipulative but fuck it.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 days ago

Really good way to go about it. You do the same thing with children.

[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Yep. If you want to reach people it's gotta be relevant to what they care about.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 days ago

Making fun of them, making them part of the outgroup. You can’t show fear, so in this case with the car just get out of the way and let them fuck tenderness up the road because they will get caught. Or call the cops and say they are swerving appearing drunk lol.

But in regular life you basically need to laugh in their face and cut them out of being in the group.

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Maybe, maybe not. I know for a fact that this type of communication backfires spectacularly though.

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[–] stepan@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I understand the academic roots and I’m sure the paper it was coined in is top tier sociology.

Which paper? All I'm seeing is an opinion piece. I'm confused by you linking this to sociology research

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0305829818775817journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0305829818775817

https://autonomy.work/portfolio/petro-masculinity-climate-refusal/

I didn't pay for access but the abstract seems pretty solid, and the blog post I linked (by the same author) lays out a pretty convincing line between 20th century white american masculinity and support for fossil fuels even in the face of their economic obsolescence.

It's great work, I just question the wisdom of using academic terminology in op-eds. Like obviously the fascist is going to throw stones but why oh why would you willingly hand them a bigger rock

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

culture war? class war? as far as I can tell it's a battle between the rich and stupid who want to pollute and don't give a shit for future generations, and the rest of the species who just want to fucking live.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the rich also want to polute, not just the stupid

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

so make it into a class war the rich can manipulate with 'they're gonna take your vroom vroom' and see how far you get.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm reminded of the anti-union poster suggesting not paying union dues, rather buying a game console instead.

After the 2024 election it appears that Americans genuinely cannot think further than their own impulses.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

ah the polluter class has spoken

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Rolling coal, giant lifted trucks, all this shit, just take their licenses away forever and let them drown in the car-centric cesspool they created.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Petro masculinity 😂.

It’s like they want people to make fun of them.

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[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

gonna be a fascinating time as gas spikes and these chuds lose their whole personality over not being able to drive their roided up shitmobiles everywhere.

same with monster truck rallies - how long can that garbage continue? or any conspicuous consumption?

we're better off with it all dead.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Petro-Insecurity, not Petro-Masculinity

[–] arak@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

My mom drives like this, don't be sexist about a non gendered issue. Ah just realized it's from the opinion article title.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Because a cop's job is to protect the rich. They do the bare minimum to keep us in line, to keep the people from considering rioting, to keep us going to work, etc.

Power doesn't care whether we kill each other, wreck cars, plow over kids in the cross-walk, etc. Power has no empathy. Power only cares when we get so fed up we take to the streets and show up at their front door with torches and pitchforks. That's when the cops earn their pay, when they show up in force, kitted out, and ready to rumble.

Kids being shot inside the school? Hold back till the shooting stops, don't want any of us getting hurt.

People rioting and threatening power directly? Bring out the tanks. Remember the George Floyd protests?

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My wife does this and she drives an EV. So what’s “Petro” and “masculine” about that?

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She street races and rolls coal in an EV?

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago

Look at history.

"Whippersnapper" came from young men racing horses and buggies on the roads. They'd snap the whips over the horses heads to make them go faster.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago

Journalism finally discovering terminal car brain?

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Honestly driving fast is kinda overrated and probably a consequences of driving big comfortable cars and people bring dopamine junkies

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