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pauses massive bong rip

Wait what this doesn't sound like reality

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Hmmm

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[–] bertlewirth@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago

Lolno. Not happening on any of my machines.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 111 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Who on Linux is going to consent to Microsoft telemetry on their machine?

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You know... Morons.

"I install the malware to protec me from malware"

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 38 points 3 days ago

It’s just gonna be part of security audit theater. “Prove your organization is [x] compliant.”

IT: you have to use windows so we can add your computer to intune

Developer: no

IT: Microsoft pls

Microsoft: Ok it’s on Linux now, that’ll be another seat license for clamav wrapped in our logo or something

IT: omg we’re so secure

Auditing company: omg they’re so secure

Wait til you learn about EDR like crowd strike

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

IT departments that need to check the box thats says "does your organization have antivirus or anti malware protection on all desktops?". Common in soc audits and cyber insurance attestations.

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 27 points 3 days ago

Yeah but clamav doesn’t have “a centralized dashboard with mdm and intune integration” e.g. a spreadsheet that says when everyone’s last scan was and that their definitions are up to date so the security theater can exist. Not to worry, more likely than not this is just built on a mountain of open source software like clamav that’s probably MIT licensed so MS can slap their logo on it and charge for it

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There already better alternatives like clamav but I guess that assumes the IT department is actually Linux proficient.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“does your organization have antivirus or anti malware protection on all desktops?”

Talk about suggestive question phrasing. Where better organisational security could often be accomplished by assuming every device attached to the network is a potential threat, and focusing on the network security, shielding devices against each other with only whitelisted protocols, plus locking down all devices that are configured by corporate IT.

Practical IT security in most orgs these days is "configure a big firewall with default settings from corporate provider, assuming everything is safe inside." then they get one compromised device (USB stick, cell phone transfer, exploit, whatever) and the whole ass network is fucked. and they have a "oh well, we did everything we can" excuse. fucking BS.

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Same people who use Microsoft Edge on Linux.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Edge on Linux is great for getting boomers to use Linux.

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[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On their own machine, maybe not. On their employer's machine, maybe if the employer demands it.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn’t realize businesses used Linux. Every place I’ve worked it’s been windows and Chrome/Edge.

[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

It's mostly Windows of course. But some people in those companies may prefer to use Linux, and this gives a them a higher chance of being allowed to do so. I for one am running Linux in a company that's increasingly pushing for Microsoft stuff.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not just telemetry, probably full root remote access.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Defense industry, and basically every 3-letter agency. Probably a lot of state- and county-level government offices too.

[–] misk@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People agree to Google telemetry on their Linux phones.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why is there google telemetry on Nura, Ubuntu Touch and SailfishOS?

[–] misk@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Android is Linux with orders of magnitude more users than all of those combined.

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[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They want to scan all of my files. They can go fuck themselves.

Oh it's so much worse than a FIM.

They want a rootkit with RCE

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use a Linux desktop for work. My employer is constantly threatening to replace it with a mac "so they can control it". Their main control point is microsoft defender. I would rather have defender on my work machine than be forced to use a mac.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

see for work it makes sense because you hopefully don't do personal stuff on that computer, there's no hope of privacy on a work computer.

[–] PragmaticOne@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People will scoff at this but speaking from experience Defender is a very good AV if you are using MS Windows. MS has a vested interest in keeping their flagship OS safe.

Putting it on Linux though? No . Fucking. Way .

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's one of the few things they ever got right.

E: I should also say that the release of Defender was devastating to my "house doctor" PC services side-hustle. E2 XP SP1 out also rocked my profits - that RPC vuln was a gold mine

[–] enkille@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago
[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It'll most likely be used immutables more than anything. Which is shit for me because I fucking love Ubuntu.

See I am the key to bad things happening!!!!

I switch to Ubuntu because windows slows down my ram speed and then windows goes and adds its security into it and makes it so that they're part of the OS no matter what.

[–] gnawmon@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 days ago

ah the tech onion

clamav works fine on my mums laptop.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do we need defender if red hat exists?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does Red Hat have to do with an anti virus?

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I haven't been into linux since 2008 so forgive me on this one if I seem ignorant but isn't there redhat security and isn't that basically the same exact thing as defender except you just pay for it? Like isn't there redhat network security or some shit like that? So if linux already has a somewhat legacy security, why do we need to add microslop defender on top of it?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, Red Hat for the most part is not in the security game. There is OpenSCAP. Red Hat OpenShift does have Advanced Cluster Security available. But generally no Red Hat doesn't make security products like that. I guess maybe the closest would be using Satellite to manage clients and see their compliance. I don't know if Satellite can measure OpenSCAP compliance... Yes, there is a lot of security built in, but no they don't really do many explicitly security products.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Thank you for teaching me something new. 😁

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago

I wonder if there will be a libre version of this. Somehow use just the database with an open source version with no telemetry

[–] bruzzard@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They can now ditch the dumpster fire of an OS that is Windows and lobby for the adoption of a corporate choke-point on Linux while continuing to bludgeon the remaining bits of your dignity and soverignity. At least this could be so for enterprise Linux.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was going to say something but clammed up

[–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

And it'll probably feel 150% faster compared to Windows. Just like Edge. lol

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Mildly related: I might try to convince my job to let me use Linux come device refresh time. But we use all Microsoft stuff. Is support for Teams, OneDrive, etc reliable on Linux? I have, of course, avoided it like the plague for personal use so I don't know. Is anyone else in a similar situation?

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I have to use the web version for work anyways, so yes. One Drive is broken regardless of platform, unfortunately.

[–] Lee@retrolemmy.com 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I've used Teams on Linux and it worked fine. Granted it was basically just a wrapper for the web version, similarly with Outlook for Linux. I've not used One Drive on Linux, but that is what I'd be more concerned about.

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[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago
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