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Midway through this summer, a high-quality poll found that Democrats in California were overwhelmingly in favor of the upcoming ballot measure for a one-time 5% tax on billionaire wealth.

The ratio was more than 4 to 1. But the state’s most powerful Democrats – including the governor Gavin Newsom, his near-certain successor Xavier Becerra and the Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass – have lined up with Silicon Valley billionaires who’ve raised upward of $340m to defeat the initiative.

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 119 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It's amazing to have the base screaming for taxes with leadership acting like that new revenue would somehow be bad.

Hopefully this ratfuckery kills Newsom's presidential run. He's so transparently corrupt.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago

Even people barely paying attention have to see how slimy he is

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[–] savvie@lemmy.zip 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This is a fight for the soul of the Democratic party,” [California Congresscritter Ro] Khanna told me last weekend. “Will we be beholden to billionaire donors and offer platitudes without policy like Gavin Newsom, or will we reclaim our FDR courage and offer a bold vision for our nation’s future?”

Exactly 90 years ago, speaking at Madison Square Garden on the last day of October 1936, the then president Franklin Delano Roosevelt scorned the rightwing plutocrats of the day: “They are unanimous in their hate for me – and I welcome their hatred.” Leaders of today’s Democratic party have failed to earn such hatred.

I thank you for posting , Khanna is great and we can only hope for a new deal of sorts. No war but class war.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Of course the top Democrats are fighting it. That's their job, that's what they are paid to do.

The voters want term limits, and have for decades.

The voters want universal healthcare, and have for decades.

The voters want no war, so we are practically always at war.

The voters have wanted the Epstein files released for like 20 years, so they remain top secret.

The voters have wanted the wealthy to be taxed at pre-Reagan levels, so that's been ignored for 50 years now.

... and so on.

Every one of these issues and more are supported by about 80% of voters, and have been for a long time.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Term Limits: Every Republican in my state is throwing Term Limits on their very short list of lies they are promising, which is basically Bring down prices, Lower Taxes, No Socialism, and Term Limits. Also: Data Centers? What Data Centers? I don't see any Data Centers.

Every MAGA claims they'll fight for term limits, but I've never seen anyone actually propose it. EVERY Republican runs on it, it's wildly popular among constituents of BOTH parties, you'd think it would be easy legislation to pass, but nobody even proposes it, despite many in the last election running on it. You'd think 20 new people would join Congress, and make that their first bill.

But they don't, because nobody wants their NO vote to be a campaign issue in their re-election campaign.

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[–] insanemantis@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If not right wing, then why right wing shaped?

Jackass party 🫏

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

California Democrats are just Texas Republicans with the serial numbers filed off

[–] SplitTheUSInFour@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

RepubliCrats united. Now and forever.

What we want is what's happening in France and Germany. Americans need the big showdown between us and the police. Push them out of our cities and towns. Leave them with nowhere to go. Recall and reform the government.

Notice the age group of the situation in France. If American kids went into the streets and fought to end the uniparty's grip on their futures then this country would begin to heal.

I would love to see this fascist state broken to pieces.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I wanna see every working class voter register Dem and support the very first progressives that show up to primary these mother fuckers out of existence.

We hear all the time from the Republicans that California is a socialist hell hole, but they couldn't even be fucking bothered to vote for the progressive in the primary for Pelosi's seat.

Like, what the fuck is wrong with California?

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's if NIMBY was an entire state

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Silicon Valley and Hollywood are actually both some extremely predatory places that get a pass for it because people's image of those places is the kind of artists who are devoured by the psychopaths who actually run those places, and they're super influential on state politics

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

We need less of the status quo dont-rock-the-boat greedy Democrats and more Progressives. Once we get back the branches, we need to start cleaning house. If you get elected and don't carry out the will of the people who voted for you, you deserve to be fired. We want billionaires to not exist. We want millionaires to pay for the wealth they've gained off OUR labor. We want our tax money to go to US!!!!

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The terrible thing with this is that it's these Neolib Clinton Dems that piss off the voters, and inspire the "both sides are the same" accusations. That's where a lot of folks stop.

But if you want to change a party to be on the side of the people, willing to reinvigorate progressive tax laws, you need to vote Dem, and force the Dems to the left. You're not going to force the GOP to the left, at all. They are absolutely the political arm of the richest. They do not exist as a party without the top 1%.

The Dems used to be more Left, and like to pretend they're still the same New Deal folks they've always been. They're not, but voters can force them to be again. Let your elected reps know what you expect of them, and threaten to primary them from the left all the time. The party can be moved. It's definitely in need of fixing, but it can be done. Just like the Tea Party and then MAGA transformed the GOP, so too can the Dems be transformed by passionate progressives. You just have to realize that opting out, and hating the Dems for not already being what they should be, is just saying you want to lose, and to always lose.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sack the lot of them and implement a direct democracy. We don't need "representatives" - at least not ones that we're periodically stuck with even when they repeatedly vote on our behalf against our interests.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Love the enthusiasm, but you lose points on feasibility.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

I think the "feasibility" of our representative democracy has lost the point. Why do we need representatives to travel to DC, or whatever central place of government, to have their say on our behalf - especially when they all too often don't represent their voters? Why can't we exploit modern communication technology to have our say directly on anything they vote on?

Or if we are to have representatives, to make voting easier, why can't we align our votes to a party or other group, ad hoc, for them to vote on our behalf? Where we could re-assign our representative based on big issues (with an advanced deadline) or choose to make our own vote directly on matters we find important? Why do we have to lock in a "representative" for 4+ years?

[–] YragNitram1956@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is a Uk perpctive. The new prime minister has pledged to end decades of neoliberalism (the great concept espoused by Rand, Friedmann, Hayek then Reagan and Thatcher). It is both rare and refreshing to hear any UK PM say any thing like this. I am fearful about the extreme ignorance, simple mindedness, and gullibility of some of the electorate. They are completely blind to the effects of neoliberalism, which is the main guiding force behind the bumptious and odious Farage, and fascist/racist Reform party who believe that competition is the defining characteristic of human relations. It redefines citizens as consumers, whose democratic choices are best exercised by buying and selling, a process that rewards merit and punishes inefficiency. It maintains that “the market” delivers benefits that could never be achieved by planning. Attempts to limit competition are treated as inimical to liberty. Tax and regulation should be minimised; public services should be privatised. The organisation of labour and collective bargaining by trade unions are portrayed as market distortions that impede the formation of a natural hierarchy of winners and losers. Inequality is recast as virtuous: a reward for utility and a generator of wealth, which trickles down to enrich everyone. Efforts to create a more equal society are both counterproductive and morally corrosive. The market ensures that everyone gets what they deserve. We internalise and reproduce its creeds. The rich persuade themselves that they acquired their wealth through merit, ignoring the advantages, such as education, inheritance, and class – that may have helped to secure it. The poor begin to blame themselves for their failures, even when they can do little to change their circumstances. As written in today's Observer, "People don't want much. They want someone to love, somewhere to live, somewhere to work and something to hope for.” And Tim Forcer added "That would be a welcome change from much of UK politics, where many promote views that assume we mostly want someone to hate, someone to envy and someone to despise.”

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Liberals need to make the case that some things are not amenable to free market solutions. Healthcare is one: everyone puts an infinite value on their existential health, meaning there is no reason for healthcare providers to not maximize fees, all out of proportion to their own costs. Healthcare, utilities, these need to be regulated by the state, strongly.

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[–] protist@retrofed.com 52 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Newsom speaking out against this one-time wealth tax lays bare for everyone that he's in the pocket of billionaires. I didn't like him before either, but I think Gavin Newsom is throwing away his career on this issue. How utterly tone-deaf to the mood of the US population do you have to be to oppose this

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Is it tone deafness if you hear it and just don’t give a fuck? He’s not stupid. He just knows where his money comes from.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

The Democratic Party is a honey trap used to capture and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and to ensure that the “Overton Window” of American politics never moves left. The party represents the wealthy exclusively. The Republicans are a known quantity. The Democrats are the ones who tell normal people they are their friends and then stab them in the back. If we want Democracy in America, we must defeat the Democratic Party and destroy its current leadership apparatus.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago

Neoliberals are conservatives. Just like any other conservative, there is no place in a modern society for them.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 days ago

Newsome doesn’t represent me. Californian who demands more.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Modern politics in the US and here in Canada is just a bunch of corporate goons masquerading as democratically elected representatives of the people.

It no longer what political party you call them or see them in ... whether left, center or right ... they are all beholden to whoever holds the most money ... and none of it has anything to do with how people vote.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's losing, in a landslide. And we are going to pass one of the worst voter ID laws in the country. Billionaires are going to have a very good Tuesday.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Remember this when Newsome runs for president. The guy is from central casting in California. He used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle. He's not a Progressive, he's not even a Democrat. He's whatever you need to hear that will convince you to throw away your vote on him.

He is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing. He probably worked out a deal with Trump to have a phony Twitter beef, so he'd be the frontrunner for 2028, and the right would have a strong candidate among the Dems. Don't fall for the MAGA lie.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Remember this when Newsome runs for president.

You're going to get called a Russian Wumao Republican-plant Tankie if you say anything about this in two years

People are already doing that. You can't criticize Newsome without some fuckwit chiming in with "BuT tRuMp WoRsE". The candidates aren't anywhere close to decided yet and people are already acting like anyone who doesn't tongue Newsomes ass is a russian bot.

[–] SplitTheUSInFour@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We all have to come to terms with the reality that the US government no longer serves its people. It needs to be reformed. Like physically halted by using masses of people to clog hallways and removing former government reps from offices. Removing names and symbolizing. Taking down their websites and nulling whatever rules or laws from the former system which kept them in power for so long.

No one else is allowed to win in our elections. They're not even remotely legitimate. Everyone is placed in our government by the uniparty. There's no election that takes place when the people don't ever get to choose a representative. We're presented with their options.

It needs to end. If we aren't filling the streets before Christmas, then we better start.

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[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

You know your society is fucked and pushing the limits when the richest people vote for measures to reduce their own money hording powers.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Should be 1% yearly like they do to our retirement plans.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I'm willing to bet if the voters approve it, it won't ever be implemented.

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