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Mildly Infuriating

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This really isn't enshittification. Things are not being made worse just to drive someone else's profit. There isn't the big fido2 key lobby pushing this in the background. This is a security measure to improve security on a highly technical website that is the target of lots of attacks.

Its annoying and inconvenient, sure, but not making a service worse to drive profit.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lot of comments here with single down votes. I wonder how salty op is

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dead Sea levels....

Microsoft / Github do a ton of shitty things, straight up enshittification textbook stuff... spoiled for choice really... just not 2fa.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think so. Enforcing two-factor auth to be allowed to do certain things with an account just makes sense. It's definitely not an attempt to squeeze profit out of users per se, but rather an attempt to limit liability and the risk of costly support problems caused by passwords being compromised.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's even more important with contributors of large projects and libraries used by a vast amount of software out there.

It's not inconceivable that someone's account gets hijacked, and someone uses their trusted account to add a small snippet of malicious code in a commit, enabling a supply-chain attack.

[–] pikasaurX4@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Which part of this is infuriating you? The fact that a message is popping up or what it’s asking you to do? Or is it the fact that it’s all in comic sans? Honestly, 2FA is a really simple way to greatly improve security on your account. I’m no expert, so maybe it’s got major flaws that I don’t know about, but just set it up really quick and choose to remember your device. Now you’ll never need to worry about it and you won’t see this message

I've had numerous accounts of people getting my password through a breach or something and 2fa being the only thing that stopped them from getting into my account. On GitHub that's my strongest logins, don't know why anyone would be against securing their code

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you use a VPN/browser security addons (don't know which breaks it). The "register your device" has never stuck for me. But it's not a big deal even then, just another step as long as there are a few options to choose in case one method isn't possible at the time. The "are you a robot" ones though...I really need to get a bot to solve the ones that still pop up for me (definitely VPN).

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm that's true, I suppose it only needs to happen every time you log in on a new device

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think what's infuriating me is that it's an inconvenience that's being paternalisticly imposed on me. That's what makes it feel like enshittification. I don't really care that much about the security of my account, and having to find my phone and wait for an app to open is just a hassle that I'd prefer to avoid. The fact that they unilaterally decided what ought to be best for me is what annoys me I guess.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

2FA is enshittification now?

I mean... I guess in a way it is a symptom of it, if you consider the growing concern of hacking part of enshittification and this, a method of stopping or at least slowing an attack down, being a product of that.

It's more of an anti-enshittification device that just comes with a slight bit of shittiness in the form of another step to logging in.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it just winds me up when sites impose these bits of shittiness on you without allowing you to opt out. Because I was happy to sacrifice a bit of my account's security for convenience

[–] hanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was more annoyed at the ssh key requirement lol, I know it’s more secure etc etc but im not working on anything sensitive, it’s just annoying

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago

Not sensitive for you. But GitHub has started to look at supply chain attacks. So I'm popular module which isn't very sensitive is used biological projects that are. The account that maintains the module is exploited and that causes lots of havoc

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah exactly, this is what I mean. I still haven't figured out how to set that up so I have to paste the key in from my password manager every time I want to push. I hate when they paternalisticly decide what ought to be best for me

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Coding instantly feels more fun