this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2024
57 points (95.2% liked)

movies

1746 readers
877 users here now

Warning: If the community is empty, make sure you have "English" selected in your languages in your account settings.

πŸ”Ž Find discussion threads

A community focused on discussions on movies. Besides usual movie news, the following threads are welcome

Related communities:

Show communities:

Discussion communities:

RULES

Spoilers are strictly forbidden in post titles.

Posts soliciting spoilers (endings, plot elements, twists, etc.) should contain [spoilers] in their title. Comments in these posts do not need to be hidden in spoiler MarkDown if they pertain to the title’s subject matter.

Otherwise, spoilers but must be contained in MarkDown.

2024 discussion threads

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Can be anything, from characters not using objects they have on them, to physics not being realistic, or a very big plot hole.

As an example, one of my friends told me that his pet peeve is that in a lot of sci-fi movies, when spaceships run out of fuel, they stop moving, while inertia and lack of atmosphere should keep them in motion.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Slappula@lemmy.zip 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The bonk on the head to incapacitate. It always works instantly and has no long term implications.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Thief (The Dark Project) is one of my favorite video games of all time, but the instant KO blackjack weapon causes one of the hardest splits in play style in any genre of games. Using the magic sleeping stick, it's fairly trivial to take out all the guards and have free run of the map. Not using it essentially requires some form of "ghosting" (beating the level without being seen at all) which is a significantly tougher challenge in many cases.

The prevalence of the trope certainly speaks to some deep inner cromagnon urge in us for problems to be solved with a simple "bonk!"

[–] riskable@programming.dev 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 3 points 7 months ago

And then the Indonesians become the headrest: https://youtu.be/ErrRhXItBWc?t=1m44s

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Characters in dystopian settings with clean faces with makeup, and perfectly coiffed hair. You're telling me that whoever built your doomsday vault decided that a 10 year supply of concealer, mascara, lipstick, etc should be part of a survival kit?

[–] Breadhax0r@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

What is even the point of living through the apocalypse if you can't shave your legs!

[–] Breadhax0r@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This one is a bit more specific, but in the new dune movie, literally everyone just starts panting and heavily breathing through their mouth after any exhertion.

The fremen absolutely know better, and I'm almost positive there was a line in the first movie when they were explaining desert survival to Paul where they say you must preserve as much moisture as you possibly can so always breathe through the still suit

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

They hardly ever wear goggles or even sunglasses either! Their eyes would be ruined instantly.

[–] xfc@lemdro.id 8 points 7 months ago

To generalise it a bit, this could be applied to helmets/masks required but not worn in films, war films and tv for example. In dune the main actors barely had their masks on, but the extras could be bundled up cause we don't need to see their faces

[–] wyrmroot@programming.dev 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s an old trope, but still bugs me: Ordering food and leaving the table long before it could have arrived.

If you wanted to have a 5 second conversation, meet under a lamppost or something, not at a fucking diner!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It always bugs me when someone stands up, unfolds a few bills and drops them on the table. Then they just walk out. How do you know that's enough? Maybe someone ordered some 32 oz margarita with top shelf tequila. Are they just leaving a massive tip? Or are they leaving a shitty tip and don't want to look their server in the eyes?

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Star Wars Episode 8 is the one that lives in my head ever since it was released.

Play by play of the opening sequence battle:

First Order ambushes the Resistance base as it is evacuating

First Order summons a ship described as a "Fleet Destroyer".

First Order only has enough time to charge one shot, but has 2 targets: The Resistance base full of intel and equipment that can't move or the Escape Fleet with all the escape ships and evacuated people.

So, who do they shoot?

The base full of intel on the ground...

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Oh man, the Disney Star Wars Trilogy is full of these.

I get that Star Wars movies are effectively a fantasy adventure series in Sci-Fi clothing, I'm not expecting perfect logical sense out of everything, but internal consistency has absolutely not been Disney Wars's strong suit.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

And 8 was the better movie. 7 was janky but hopeful and 9 was a plot faucet.

They're all fanfiction. But they're all distinct kinds of fanfiction.

7 is written like the characters are also fans of the movies: Finn is shocked by hologram technology he'd see every day, people parrot lines that were once clever, the camera lingers on a broken astromech droid, et very cetera. The returning characters are living legends famed for their transformative effect on the whole galaxy but also haven't changed one iota since we last saw them.

8 is an anarchist deconstruction of Star Wars that somehow got turned into an actual Star Wars movie: a rebel soldier becomes disillusioned after her sister died for nothing, the good guy and bad guy agree the current conflict is a pointless sham, and details throughout scream that no mere organization could ever own the magic that belongs to all living beings. And then a surprise fourth act goes "whoops nevermind."

9 is a toddler telling a story: "and then... and then... but no he didn't?... and then..." It's like a child learned about fakeout deaths yesterday and expects it to be equally shocking every single time. Then the big battle needed to involve every toy in the toybox, especially the horses, because spaceships can't look up. At least in the end we got the Rey x Kylo connection it all built toward, and their kids are gonna be the most powerful nevermind.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] scytale@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Characters not saying "bye" before hanging up the phone.

[–] barttier@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago

Or not telling where they are, but somehow the other person knows exactly where to drive.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 18 points 7 months ago

Generally speaking: Things that humans would never survive. Like, if someone is thrown so hard against a wall that they go through it, they're not going to live (this happens with non-super characters). Or when someone is falling from a great height and they grab hold of something to catch themselves. Yeah... No.

Or in scenes where fire is present... People having a discussion without coughing their brains out, being able to see, and easily keeping their eyes open, just a few feet from raging flames.

After experiencing any and all of these things the characters will just continue in the story and be able to move and breathe like nothing happened. Sometimes they'll move with a limp or cough occasionally but this is usually right before they make a 100m dash in record time.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

My specific example is The Butterfly Effect when he gives himself stigmata in prison; the movie has already established that's not how it works. Looper made a similar mistake, again not following the rules the movie itself set up.

The more general example: sprinkler systems. Basically every single time a sprinkler system goes off in movies and TV it's wrong. They get it wrong so consistently that it's trope at this point and would confuse people if they decided to get it right.

Each sprinkler head is triggered by heat individually, so smoke won't make the place get flooded out, and holding your lighter up to the head will only make that one head go off. The systems would be so poorly designed to work like in the movies, with false-triggers and flooding areas nowhere near the fire all the time causing more damage than fires.

[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

The water in those sprinklers is disgusting too! It's been sitting, stagnant in that pipe for years. It won't be clear water like from the tap and it will stink.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Can we talk about that scene in The Office where Michael proposes to Holly, and sets off the sprinklers and everybody just shrugs it off and it is never spoken about? It's a paper company. Everything would be ruined.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

I don’t know about residential sprinklers, but industrial ones will trigger a cascade of sprinklers to flood. The first one drops the pressure on the line, which activates the high volume pump, which will cause all sprinklers heads to open.

[–] Praxinoscope@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

POV when using binoculars has two circles, which isn't how it looks when you actually use them. It should be one circle.

Camera footage that's played back in movies as part of the plot always has the recording icon, time code, etc burnt into the footage, which should really only be visible on the camera monitor while recording, not during playback and especially not on another device.

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

old VHS cam-corders did burn some of that info onto the tape.

[–] Praxinoscope@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but it's almost never a VHS camera in the movies, and now often a smartphone video.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Kidnappers always FaceTime the victims family. No one uses Android? They can't take a few minutes to download Google Meet?

[–] simple@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

Nobody ever says "bye" in phone calls, the conversations just abruptly end and one side closes the call when they've heard enough.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

These are more common in tv than film but happen in both:

Any time a shot is given with a syringe, especially by an addict, it's almost always done in a way that would severely damage the person.

And more of a narrative issue that is common, but I hate the trope where a person overhears part of a conversation and jumps to conclusions, but had they listened for a few seconds longer it would have contradicted their conclusions.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OutOfContextEavesdropping

[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My wife pointed it out and now I see it everywhere. How hard would it be to just put a glob of playdoh in there or something for the weight?

[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or even better come up with liquid filled inserts if they are worried about spills, so you get realistic sloshing movement. They are so concerned with realism in guns in movies that actors get shot by accident but when it comes to cups they’re like β€œshrug”.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

That's quite reasonable. Like a sippy cup inside.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everything about every time travel movie ever

[–] vrek@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 9 points 7 months ago

No, no, that one will have been good

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Any time the villain has the upper hand and then leaves the room with no reason not to just kill the protagonists.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hoping for the good guys to catch a bullet to the face. It's just that it's lazy writing. Give them a reason to be left alive, or create some distraction that requires attention. Not just "I want you to see this" sort of bullshit, but a legitimate reason.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alien: Covenant

For all the hate this movies catches, I've never heard a complaint about the opening. The run into a neutrino burst.

"Why do you guys even have sensors for that?! Pretty neat!"

And it wrecks the ship. Because fuck you, that's why.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is the issue that a neutrino blast wouldn't have any effect or that one that could disable a ship should also sterilize the contents of that ship?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Both, probably. My favorite neutrino fact is that to receive a lethal dose of neutrino rediation from a supernova, you'd have to be standing inside the implosion.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People randomly being able to increase their bandwidth. It's less so now (and happens less) but jfc seeing plot points in the oughts where something like an adsl connection was instantly beefed to 'moar bandwidth' on the fly with no one dealing with any of the infrastructure that physically rate limited (especially at the exchange) makes me graaar

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Back in the day we used to hack cable modems to uncap the speed. Most of the time, and even more so now, the limits are artificial and a quick call can upgrade your service.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A quick call and usually a larger sum of money.

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, that part too

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know. That's why I specifically mentioned ADSL, which unlike cable has limitations end users can't override due to how it's implementated at the exchange

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

ADSL is provisioned similarly. You can just re-provision and up the speed beyond your current service level.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Noises in space. I know Star Wars is the worst offender, and people have tried to make excuses about how ships have speakers that add explosions and laser noises, but that's crap.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think shock waves might still make sound. Once they hit you, that is, not when you first see them.

I like it when a movie accounts for the extra time it takes for sound to travel. I'm replaying subnautica and when the ship explodes you hear it right away even though it's about 1km away and it was disappointing.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shock waves need a medium to travel. If something explodes in space, it will send debris that might hit you, but if it produces a shock wave in a low-density environment, it would probably miss you due to the lack of matter.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Ah thanks, til that shockwaves aren't distortions of space-time itself and just a pressure wave on whatever is in the area.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

In The Dark Knight it's bothered me that two-face didn't develop any pronunciation problems after losing a cheak and half a pair of lips. I know, I know, it's a comic book movie, but seeing him pronounce the 'b' sound with his teeth showing takes me out of it every time

load more comments
view more: next β€Ί