That’s not the issue with Belichick. We all know and give him credit for being the mastermind behind Patriots defenses.
But the main issue is that even with all those stats you just laid out the Patriots offense was STILL BETTER!!!!!
It’s Belichick a question as to whether or not he can still coach up a defense post Brady. It’s a question on whether or not he can coach THE OFFENSE!!!!! without him!!!
As far as it’s shown for what his teams have don’t offensively without Brady you can’t by any metric give any of the credit to Belichick and that’s the issue!!!!
The argument has also been Brady is a SYSTEM QB. And that he’d be NOTHING WITHOUT HIM!!!!!! BELICHICK MADE BRADY!!!!
That’s the real revisionist history and Slander that has come from Belifans camp
It’s funny you decided to only show the defensive stats and that you also didnt compared them to post Brady at all either.
Because if you had done so you would’ve exposed that the Pats defenses have still been good without Brady. And the real thing that has OBVIOUSLY changed is the offense!!!!!!!!
Trying to paint this narrative as if Brady was leading some mid offenses that were completely carried by his defenses and that the reason Belichick hasn’t won is because the defenses fell off.
Which is FALSE!!!!!!
And you mentioned Bill got his 2 rings as what??? A DC!!
DEFENSEive Coordiner NOT Head Coach!!
(When he also had the literal consensus goat defender btw)
When arguing coaches legacies we don’t count the rings they won as mere assistant coaches. If that’s the case then Josh McDaniel’s is a 3X SB winning coach.
Is Josh McDaniels gonna make the Hall of Fame????
Bruce Arians was a 2X SB Champ as an OC before Brady showed up. If he never came out of retirement would he make the Hall of Fame????
Why don’t we just put every coach who has won multiple rings as a Coordinator in the Hall of Fame???
Seriously you give those 2 super bowls to Belichick as if they were his own. Are you gonna give him Parcells 8 playoff wins with the Giants as well???
Where talking about Bill Belichick as a HEAD COACH!!!!
What exactly has Belichick done as a HC without Brady? AKA what has he done when he is responsible for the entire team? Not just the defense!!!
Brady without Belichick was 32-18 (.640) with 5 playoff wins and a Super Bowl blowout win without him.
Meanwhile Belichick is 46-51 (.474) in New England and 82-95 (.463) Overall with 1 wild card win and 2 blowout playoff losses without Brady.
That’s 177 games and 11 seasons worth of sample size. Not Small
Compare that with how some of his contemporaries have done without their Hall of Fame QBs and it looks even worse.
Reid is 53-29 (.646) in Kansas City and 183-122-1 (.600) Overall with 10 playoff wins and 4 NFC championship and a Super Bowl Appearance without Mahomes.
Payton is still 13-8 (.619) Overall without Brees
Carroll at 72 is now 29-31 (.483) and 62-62 (.500) Overall with only 1 playoff win but still 0 blow out losses without Russell
Dungy was 54-42 (.563) with a couple of playoff wins and an NFC championship appearance in Tampa without Peyton.
Tomlin is 32-26-1 (.550) Overall and zero playoff appearances so far without Big Ben.
And these are only just a few of Belichick contemporaries.
Jim Harbaugh, Doug Peterson, Brain Billick, and even Jon Gruden were able to to have winning record and win a Super Bowl without any Hall of Fame or even anything close to an Elite QB every place they went.
Not saying that all those guys are better than Belichick because it’s definitely understandable to not be as successful without your Hall of Fame QB.
But if you were to take a look and compare Belichicks resume to the rest of the Coaches already in the Hall of Fame without their Hall of Fame QBs then his is worse than at least 90% of them.
They both needed each other. But one clearly needed them more than the other.
Belichick is still an all time Great Coach deserving of the Hall of Fame. But face it. Just like many Coaches in the Hall of Fame he was made by his QB.