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This is more of an offseason post and I won’t be surprised if it gets removed. Sorry in advance.

Anyway, I’ve been watching a lot more college ball than I ever have before. Seems like people regard Caleb Williams as the best overall prospect based on his physical abilities and ability to make crazy stuff happen.

I’ve also heard Drake Maye’s name pop up quite a bit. I’ve noticed he’s only got two years played, disregarding his redshirt year. Seemed to be a top tier prospect, but I’m a little confused about why NFL fans think he should be the second QB taken in the draft. How many times have we seen dudes who played a limited time in college go on and prove to not be ready for the NFL?

Next there’s Bo Nix. Dude is lighting it up this year for Oregon. I would think he would be rated over Maye.

Michael Penix Jr. is my favorite prospect. He’s not perfect but he’s got a nice lefty deep ball and he’s fun to watch. Possible Heisman candidate. His completion percentage is low tonight, but playing in pouring rain will do that.

That all being said, I understand that a big part of evaluating the talent of college guys depends on the strength of their teammates, and the strength of their opponents.

Just want some discussion here. Forgive me for being a layman

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With discussion about the hip drop tackle, which had been debated over the off-season but was reignited by the unfortunate injury to Mark Andrews on TNF, I thought I'd highlight that other sports are attempting to address the tackle and it's technique.

It's obviously not a perfect comparison but it's still interesting to see how they address it.

VIDEO (NRL): What is and isn't a hip drop tackle https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/05/16/what-is-and-isnt-a-hip-drop-tackle/

Reddit thread: Older examples of hip drops in the NRL https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/j15o3p/the_hip_drop_tackle/

Article: What is a hip drop tackle? NRL clarifies controversial tackling technique: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/rugby-league/news/what-is-a-hip-drop-tackle-nrl-clarifies/bjmnuia5i9fhdubyc6svzriq

They're still working out the kinks and trying to figure out how to apply punishment consistently but for the most part the viewer base agrees that something needs to change to stop the high incidence of career-altering injuries from this type of tackle.

We've seen the NFL give the offense more protection in the past and we know they want to see explosive high-scoring games so maybe they won't care too much to add another challenge for defensive players by banning this technique.

Thoughts?

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I'm going to preface this by saying Damar Hamlin's recovery is remarkable. However, does he really deserve the award over other players?

Let's face it, Damar Hamlin was never good at football. His near death experience and his recovery is a remarkable story, but should we really give this award to a player who hasn't even played a full game this year? Was this guy ever even a starter? He made a great recovery, but what Hamlin did isn't necessarily an "NFL Comeback". The award should go to Tua or Josh Dobbs. I'm convinced the Bills only still have him on the team for PR purposes.

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retroactive fines for taunting and roughness seem to be different random weird amounts

is there mysterious group of lawyers and actuaries sitting there saying "$10,867 for a peace sign, yeah sounds about right" like its american health insurance or something

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You thought it was a horsecollar. I thought it was a horsecollar. Brock Purdy thought it was a horsecollar. It turns out it was a horsecollar — Foyesade Oluokun was fined $16,391 for the play, which did not draw a flag…

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Last year the Lions were 1-6 heading into week 9. They went 8-2 the rest of the way. Which team, with a horrible record right now, do you think will finish the season off strong and be a spoiler along the way?

Last year the Dolphins were 8-3 heading into week 13 and then finished off with 5 straight losses, almost missing the playoffs. Which team, with a great record right now, do you think will end the year with a bad streak of losses?

My fear is that my Lions are about to come up against a bunch of bad losses. 5 divisional games (which always can go either way) two of which are against the Vikings who are putting together a streak and getting healthy plus 2 more against the Bears who have a mobile QB that seem to give the Lions D fits. Plus the Cowboys! Maybe its the 30 year Detroit fan in me expecting the worst, but I fear them even losing the division. Its set up too perfectly for us Lions fans to have the proverbial "ball pulled out by Lucy" in week 16-18.

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For example if a team was in victory formation and the qb took the snap on his knees, he would be down immediately. Thus preventing a fumbled snap.

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Panthers fan here looking ahead at the inevitability of Scott Fitterer getting fired after his horrible tenure here.

I know it’s harder to evaluate guys in front offices and identify who the next GM’s will be, but what are the names to look out for.

Also, any of these GM’s have ties to an up and coming OC that can replace Frank Reich in 2024?

Adam Peters and Bobby Slowik are a combo I am intrigued by.

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In todays league we see rival QBs who are very cordial with each other and gracious in both victory and defeat.

Are there any examples in the NFL of quarterbacks who hated each other and even engaged in trash talk before and after they faced off?

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When it comes to luck in the NFL we can boil it down to two old addages:

  • It’s better to be lucky than good.
  • Good teams make their own luck.

So which is it?  Let’s try to use some statistics and metrics to see which NFL teams have been the luckiest and unluckiest, and see if there is an addage that fits the 2023 season.

To keep the reddit post as short as possible, the metrics methodology part has been cut out. If you are interested in the thought process and methodology behind the luck quotient, you can read the entire article here: In the NFL, it's better to be lucky than good. Or is it?

NFL 2023 - Luck Quotient

The Luck Quotient

The Luck Quotient will be a measurement of how lucky or unlucky each NFL team has been thus far in 2023.  The one luck component I could not add was the effect of injuries.   Clearly it would be unlucky to lose your starting QB for the year, while remaining relatively injury free would be lucky for any team.

Unfortunately, I could not find a free source that listed all injuries by all teams in terms of man games lost.  I know the stats exist, but NFLLINES always limits statistics and metric to publicly availble stats.  If it were possible to add in the injuries metrics, we could do something where we assign value for starters, substitute and partial game injuries.  Unfortunately this will have to wait until such stats become available to all.

Luck Quotient metrics will either count for their full value, 1/2 their value, 1/4 of their value, or a flat 0.50 or 0.25 StDev units.  If you are interested in the how/why of the metrics, use the link above to read the full post. With that in mind, here is the list of metrics I chose for the Luck Quotient:

Full Value Metrics

  • FG %
  • Opponent Fumble Recovery %
  • Interceptions thrown

Half Value Metrics

  • Punt return avg
  • Kick return average

0.50 StDev units per occurance

  • Returned Fumble for TD
  • Returned Interception for TD
  • Recorded a Safety

Quarter Value Metric

  • Extra Point %

0.25 StDev units per occurance

  • Punt return TD
  • Kick return TD

The Luckiest & Unluckiest  NFL Teams in 2023

After we total up the scores for each metric, we are left with the final Luck Quotient for each team.  The 3 luckiest teams are the only 3 teams that scored over 3.0: 

  • Dallas(3.74)
  • Houston(3.16)
  • Tampa Bay(3.06)

Dallas scored 2.5 of their 3.74 luck points from defensive returns for TD and a safety.  Houston has no defensive scores and Tampa has a Interception return for TD.  If we eliminated luck points for defensive scores, Houston would be the luckiest team(3.16), followed by Tampa bay(2.56) and LA Chargers (2.46).

At the other end of the luck spectrum, the three unluckiest teams are the only 3 teams that scored lower than -2.0:

  • New England(-3.67)
  • Buffalo(-2.70)
  • LA Rams(-2.28)

If we eliminated defensive scores, New England(-3.17) would still be the unluckiest, but the Rams(-2.28), would flip spots with the Bills (-2.20), and the Vikings(2 defensive scores) would drop & tie for 3rd unluckiest(-2.20).  Both the Patriots & Bills have 1 defensive score, while the Rams have zero.  So their unluckiness extends to their defensive scoring prowess as well.

One statistical oddity, note the Denver Broncos Punt and Kick return units.  Punt return avg of 20.7 yds and kick return avg of 33.6 yds with a TD.  Surely that kick return average is inflated due to the TD return, but the punt return average is also off the charts.  Gold Stars to the Denver kick/punt return unit and coach for their performance in 2023 so far.

The other unusual tidbit, Green Bay's opponents only recovering 18.75% of fumbles so far. The lowest value for that I could find since 2018 was the 2021 Arizona Cardinal's opponents recovered only 30.51% of fumbles & 2019 New Orleans Saints' opponents recovered only 30.77% of fumbles. The ball is bouncing the Packers way so far.

Is It Better To Be Lucky Than Good, Or Do Good Teams Make Their Own Luck?

The record for each team is listed in the final columns of the Luck Quotient chart.  And the answer at least for 2023 is pretty clear.

  • The 8 Luckiest NFL teams in 2023 have a combined record of 36 – 36 (.500).
  • The 8 Unluckiest NFL teams in 2023 have a combined record of 29 – 50 (.367).
  • If we combine the 8 luckiest and 8 unluckiest teams, those 16 teams have a combined record of 65 – 86 (.4305).
  • The 16 teams with average luck have a combined record of 86 – 65 (.5695).

Thus, good teams make their own luck, at least in 2023.

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Off topic but may be of interest to fellow Brits. College game day live is the first thing they are showing at 2pm today. Great to have it back on UK TV and on the same package as the NFL

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