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    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    I like to ask Linux people "Would you recommend Arch for a newbie?" Not because I have any intention of using Arch, but their answer to that question helps me judge the quality of their advice going forward.

    [–] untorquer@quokk.au 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It really depends on whether they're an enthusiast excited about it or they're just trying to ditch windows...

    9/10 times, no.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    And believe it or not, the 1/10 case: also no.

    [–] untorquer@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago

    Let people do dumb shit if they want to!

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    I don't recommend things based on if people are new to it or not. I recommend things based on if they read and are willing to learn or not.

    If you don't read, arch is not a good distro for you.

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    *judges the quality of your advice going forward*

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 8 points 3 days ago

    You should always judge the quality of advice others give, especially random internet bozos.

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    If you don't read, nothing is good for you, you'll kill all distros if you don't care and aren't willing to learn

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Agreed. Also I would rather read the archwiki than loads of outdated faq posts when troubleshooting an issue.

    I guess a lot of accurate text is intimidating compared to a concise message that is very confident.

    I've also seen people just refuse to read an error message. I think this is from using Microsoft products that never have accurate error messages.

    Anyway, I hope people willing to learn try a whole bunch of things, and don't give up at the first problem because that is how you learn.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

    The Arch wiki's secret: Most of the time, the info is applicable to other distros, even when you're running Debian oldoldstable.

    [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago

    Microsoft (and not only!) Fucked up the perception of error messages so much with their innacurate errors and random gibberish

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I can't read this comment πŸ‘

    [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

    Eh, rolling release distros are great for gaming. I recommend it enthusiasts (noob or not) and gamers. If you just need a rock solid platform for a server or browsing the web / word processing then sure slap some Debian or Fedora on there and call it a day.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Honestly, if you are new to Linux and are making the switch because you enjoy customisation and tinkering, a manual Arch install is the way to go. It's fun and you learn a lot, while still having a good OS.

    [–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Guys stop this nonsense. I spent 2 hours in wpa_supplicant trying to fix Wi-Fi because I missed a package containing regional wpa shit.

    You all vastly under estimate how quickly a novice may be overwhelmed.

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I have multiple times partitioned the wrong drive. With a graphical installer.

    I now physically remove the SSDs I don’t want to partition.

    [–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

    You mean configuring EFI, /root, /home, and /swap knowing mkfs and gparted wasn't just natural?!!!!? Noob!

    [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It's still a bad place to start. Go try a curated experience or two before you try building a system from the ground up.

    That also means you're less likely to end up with a final bloated system with 7 DEs, 16 shells, 4 file manager, and every piece of software installed that sounded cool because you wanted to try them all out.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

    Yeah fair enough actually. Doing something like Fedora -> Arch is probably smarter for beginners.

    [–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

    I recommend it for learning/entertainment/passtime - I don't see why anyone cant fuck with it on a vm or spare partition. Not for dependency though.

    But i generally recommend people strive for some degree of independence in most things, as a good fallback.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    you can try it. i personally recommend you install it without the archinstall script once so that you learn a bit about how linux works, and if you dont want to learn so much stuff at once, either install it through archinstall or choose a different distro. you're probably going to learn some stuff once something breaks, though that could take a while

    of course though, i'd only say that to someone who shows a lot of enthusiasm for linux. if they simply don't want windows, i'd just recommend fedora

    [–] placebo@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I think it depends on how we define a newbie. No experience with linux at all? Hell, no. They'll likely fail and never touch it again. Someone who understands some basics and really wants to learn? Go ahead.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

    eh if you're REALLY interested in linux you can do it with no prior knowledge

    though i guess you can't be that interested in linux without knowing anything...

    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    So what would β€œWould you recommend Nix for a newbie?” reveal?

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

    The cat shelter probably doesn't let you adopt anymore.

    [–] xylol@leminal.space 1 points 3 days ago

    I'd say no but you'll probably end up there eventually. At least for me I went crunch bang++, popOS, fedora, arch, bazzite, cachyOS, now thinking about arch again