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Like going to an Indian restaurant for the first time and saying you want a lot of spice (lemmy.world)

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (1 children)

Arch is boring. It just works, has all the latest software, runs all the games, has the latest kernel...

My latest install is from 2019 I think....its exactly as fast as when I installed it, despite new versions of massive desktop environments like plasma and cosmic in this time, and hundred of new kernels and drivers.

Where is the excitement... Arch is like a rock in the sea. It doesnt change, it just is perfect the way it is.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Arch is one of the most vanilla of Linuxes. Everyone wanted to run an opinionated distro. But what we needed was the opinions of developers and fewer opinions from people who think creating a distro is a sensible way to distribute art.

Arch - every package is just the software the original developer shipped, kept up to date.

"I have art work I want to share. I know. I'll make myself responsible for the reliability of a thousand people's operating systems. I hope my cooky ideas never come into conflict with that." <- Not who you want indirectly changing files on your system when you use the package manager.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

EndeavourOS ftw.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

That hole was made for me!

[–] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Going to an Indian restaurant and asking for a lot of spice can work… if you’re a veteran of Thai or Mexican spice first

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

For me vanilla Arch is the easiest to use and diagnosed, I tried the switch to other distros when the malwares fiasco broke out but I feel like I'm using Linux for the first time again, I can't understand anything about the os I'm using what command I have to use to install softwares after figured it out half of my software is not in the repo so I have to compile it like a cave man and don't get me started on where are all of my config files is.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I have never touched arch because i heard it was hard and i just wanted a distro that works without too much effort put in

I use nixos btw

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

How do you like it?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Project car vs daily driver.
Just different purposes and people have different tolerances for tinkering.

Also, when you want the car to behave in a specific way, you're willing to tune it to do so.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fixed:

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Appreciated! I’ve always hated that nonsensical format

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 25 points 11 hours ago

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Went to a family-run Indian place in Cornwall looking for vindaloo, but the guy talked me down to a madras. Good thing cuz it was right on the edge of my tolerance level. I couldn't have eaten their vindaloo.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 107 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (20 children)

I've been working on Linux since '96. As time goes by I keep drifting more and more towards boring and stable distributions. I just don't want to be bothered with a system that needs me to groom it constantly.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 63 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I use arch because it is the boring but stable system. Rolling release means you just keep updating it and it works forever rather than having to do big bang upgrades between LTS versions that always break something

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Nah. It just means that the breaking updates could surprise you at any time.

With a LTS version upgrade, I can plan for the potentially breaking updates. I can set aside time when my schedule is free to do the big update and work through any potential bullshit. It won't interrupt my work.

But in a rolling release, you're still going to get that same breaking update ... but with no warning this time. It might come at a crucial time when you're trying to get other work done, forcing you to stop your more important work and fix your computer first.

And that's not even counting the number of breaking updates. A relatively 'bleeding edge' rolling release distro like Arch is going to include much newer software versions that haven't gone through as much real-world testing and bug reporting as the stale old packages in a LTS release. The price you pay for more updated software is that it's less thoroughly tested software and more likely to include undiscovered, unfixed bugs.

By the time the same package update finally makes it to some stable LTS distro, more of the bugs have been discovered, reported, and hopefully fixed ... before you ever even see it.

(Not to say that nobody should run cutting-edge rolling release distros. I'm glad you guys are out there. You're the ones reporting those bugs that end up getting fixed before it makes it into the LTS version. If everybody was running LTS stuff, it would lose that advantage because nobody would be testing things before they make it to the LTS.)

Overall, I think cutting-edge rolling release is fine for a computer that doesn't really matter, like a gaming PC. (And you'll probably get a gaming performance boost from having the latest and greatest versions of things.)

But for an essential computer that you need for doing important things, a LTS stable release is the way to go 100%.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago

The thing is ... I kind of agree with both takes.

I have been using Arch since ~2013 back when I still had time to mess around with it and learn the ins and outs, these days I work as a sysadmin so I want my systems at home to mostly "just work", however Arch also is that Distro for me for the most part. Most of the times I actually encountered breaking changes it was because of my process not breeing quite refined. For example I didn't regularly update my config files, so when there were changes in the PAM config syntax my login was borked, so now I check for .pacnew files on every update and sometimes I have to move over some changes. I also don't update as often but just when I have a few minutes while I'm using my machines.

So in short I consider Arch to be a valid option for a Stable Desktop OS (if you take some precautions and don't mess with it too much).

However for servers etc. I do usually go with Debian because the packages are usually simply a bit more matured and I do major version updates as you described (explicitly setting aside some time to possibly fix arising issues).

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[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 25 points 15 hours ago

this

you can just choose to use software that isn't dev/nightly versions, and you're fine

unless you want to see stuff break... then you install all of the nightly versions and have stuff break sometimes!

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 8 points 12 hours ago

All roads lead to Debian Stable.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 10 hours ago

Trial by fire

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 5 points 10 hours ago

I found it a great way to learn what the different components are actually for and how they interconnect/interact. But honestly, I would not use it as a daily driver again. I'm tired of fixing everything afer each update.

Went to Fedora, good and stable. Tried some OpenSUSE, nice and European. Settled with MX Linux. Ticked all the boxes, best Linux experience so far.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 10 hours ago

I had a little experience with Debian-based stuff on routers and whatnot going in, but when I finally migrated my main PC to linux I went with an Arch-based distro (cachyos) because the documentation on both projects is fantastic. I was able to get everything set up the way I wanted in a couple of days, with only one reinstall along the way lol.

[–] raspirate@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

One time I was eating at an Indian restaurant that had a 5-star heat scale, and then "Indian hot" which was just another level beyond the scale. I ordered 3 star heat and my buddy ordered "Indian hot." The waitress confirmed 3 times that was what he wanted (we're white).

I was impressed that my friend was managing his meal pretty well so I asked if I could try it to compare. It wasn't any hotter than mine. I'm sure the chef took one look at him and was like "I'm not remaking this dish when that white boy can't eat what he ordered." Not like my friend would've been a dick about it or demanded another dish, but yeah I doubt he could've handled the heat level he asked for. In the end, the food was great and my buddy didn't feel cheated and didn't destroy his guts.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Indian place I used to live near had a similar system. Each time, I ask for Indian hot. They confirm. What they bring is not Indian hot. They ask about it, I tell them "this is really good, but next time, I'd like hotter"

This goes on for freaking forever before he finally makes a dish that's genuinely hot, and it's great, but I can do more. Lol. The next time I come in, I tell them hotter than last time, and he says he'll make it like he does for his own mom.

Lit me up. It was really good. Not too hot for me, but hot enough that I'm pushing my limits. He asks after the meal, and I tell him it was hot enough. He says "good. I won't make any hotter! That's hot enough!" Haha

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 53 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

Arch taught me how to fuck my computer and now its my main squeeze.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (24 children)

I like to ask Linux people "Would you recommend Arch for a newbie?" Not because I have any intention of using Arch, but their answer to that question helps me judge the quality of their advice going forward.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So what would “Would you recommend Nix for a newbie?” reveal?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

The cat shelter probably doesn't let you adopt anymore.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 9 hours ago

I recommend it for learning/entertainment/passtime - I don't see why anyone cant fuck with it on a vm or spare partition. Not for dependency though.

But i generally recommend people strive for some degree of independence in most things, as a good fallback.

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