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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well they makes me curious what the "upgrade" entails. 🤔 Have they ever told you?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Faster download it's always faster download and never understand any circumstances upload.

I get 1gig down and 10megs up... On spectrum.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

10 Mbps up in the year of our lord 2026?..
I swear to god, I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

Neither are we

~ Americans

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 23 hours ago

Wut. Corporate monopolies of shitty cable companies maximizing personal profit at the expense of clients is like the most capitalistic thing you could have.

2nd world countries would be much more capable of providing good internet service.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I changed provider after they tried to tell me 1/4 Mbps was more than enough. It didn't even have packet shaping. As soon as Google photos tried to back up, the packet returns required to lead webpages started falling over. It was painful.

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not to defend spectrum, but there is an actual reason for this besides malice.

Coax cable internet uses analog switching and routing between you and your ISPs first Ethernet hop. It's basically a series of unconfigurable hardware low-pass and high-pass filters to ensure that upload traffic and download traffic flow cleanly.

When cable internet started and these systems were installed in your neighborhood, a range of low-frequency (low-bandwidth) channels were selected for uploads, and a range of high-frequency (high-bandwidth) channels were selected for downloads, going off the assumption that more people wanted downloads than anything else.

Fast-forward to today, and the ISPs don't really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago. The only way to redirect the flow and assignment of channels would be to rip out and replace all of those analog filters, and they're not going to do that because grandma isn't going to go without cable for 3 weeks. Grandma will call, get angry, and pick a new cable provider. Grandma is by far their most consistent and profitable customer.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ISPs don’t really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago.

I think there is actually a choice in there somewhere.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

And in case it needs to be spelled out, it's upgrading the infra to offer better speeds. But they have no incentive to do so because that benefits only the customer.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They just run a new fiber line to every customer that says "I need symmetric speeds, please".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you're willing to pay they probably will, but it's something that's generally very expensive, so not something they advertise. If you're serious about it, look into business offerings.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 22 hours ago

Paying the ISP to run a new fiber cable yourself is 10-50k.

The ISP can do this at a better price if they do a neighborhood all at once due to economies of scale.

The US government already paid the ISP to run fiber in like the 90s. They should give the money back with interest or lay the fucking fiber

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, wouldn't you want 9 more down then? Who wants asymmetric speeds with faster upload than down?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're getting 10 MBit up, not 10 GBit

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 22 hours ago

Oh fuck, that should be illegal

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I remember how happy I was when I got 50mb upload... About 20 years ago?