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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 66 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

My ISP every few months:

"We can upgrade yo-

Does the upload speed upgrade too?

"Well, no- click

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I just switched ISPs because the one I had never gave me the speed I was paying out the ass for and had constant outages. I switched and became the first house in my street with fiber. Now everyone is getting it. My bill is also $50 less than it was before. Only upsides. I think the deals are so good because my new ISP used to be terrible until the company got bought out and renamed. Now they're the best around me by far.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I had AT&T Gigabit symmetric fiber once and it was glorious.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

My favorite is Spectum’s “Gig” (I guess too many people can’t pronounce 1 Gbps) plan is like, significantly slower than their 600 Mbps or even their 400 Mbps like 80% of the time.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 15 hours ago

Giga is the Spanish word, so they might just use it because it's more bilingual friendly

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well they makes me curious what the "upgrade" entails. 🤔 Have they ever told you?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Faster download it's always faster download and never understand any circumstances upload.

I get 1gig down and 10megs up... On spectrum.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I changed provider after they tried to tell me 1/4 Mbps was more than enough. It didn't even have packet shaping. As soon as Google photos tried to back up, the packet returns required to lead webpages started falling over. It was painful.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

10 Mbps up in the year of our lord 2026?..
I swear to god, I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago

I'm not convinced the US is a first-world country.

Neither are we

~ Americans

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 15 hours ago

Wut. Corporate monopolies of shitty cable companies maximizing personal profit at the expense of clients is like the most capitalistic thing you could have.

2nd world countries would be much more capable of providing good internet service.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Not to defend spectrum, but there is an actual reason for this besides malice.

Coax cable internet uses analog switching and routing between you and your ISPs first Ethernet hop. It's basically a series of unconfigurable hardware low-pass and high-pass filters to ensure that upload traffic and download traffic flow cleanly.

When cable internet started and these systems were installed in your neighborhood, a range of low-frequency (low-bandwidth) channels were selected for uploads, and a range of high-frequency (high-bandwidth) channels were selected for downloads, going off the assumption that more people wanted downloads than anything else.

Fast-forward to today, and the ISPs don't really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago. The only way to redirect the flow and assignment of channels would be to rip out and replace all of those analog filters, and they're not going to do that because grandma isn't going to go without cable for 3 weeks. Grandma will call, get angry, and pick a new cable provider. Grandma is by far their most consistent and profitable customer.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 points 16 hours ago

ISPs don’t really have any choice but to sell you the asymmetry that they installed 20-30 years ago.

I think there is actually a choice in there somewhere.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They just run a new fiber line to every customer that says "I need symmetric speeds, please".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If you're willing to pay they probably will, but it's something that's generally very expensive, so not something they advertise. If you're serious about it, look into business offerings.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago

Paying the ISP to run a new fiber cable yourself is 10-50k.

The ISP can do this at a better price if they do a neighborhood all at once due to economies of scale.

The US government already paid the ISP to run fiber in like the 90s. They should give the money back with interest or lay the fucking fiber

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, wouldn't you want 9 more down then? Who wants asymmetric speeds with faster upload than down?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They're getting 10 MBit up, not 10 GBit

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 14 hours ago

Oh fuck, that should be illegal

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I remember how happy I was when I got 50mb upload... About 20 years ago?