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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 257 points 10 months ago (10 children)

What timeline is this again? Psychics are on news channels now? Not mention one with an extremely large user base that would have this go against their theology? I can’t even.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 129 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

As proven long ago, Fox News is not news, it's all editorials. Every last person on the air is a pundit, there are no reporters. They don't report the news, they report their opinions on the news. That's why they have a "psychic" on one of their shows, to provide an opinion on what's going to happen. It's all just for show...

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Those of us who remember Reaganomics also remember he used a psychic his entire EIGHT year presidency. SMH.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Ugh that’s a gross reminder but a good point as well.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you thinking of his astrologer Joan Quigley? Not really any better, but not a psychic.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You say Grenada, I say Grenada. Let's call the whole thing off.

Lmao holy fuck how did I not know this? That’s wild.

[–] Icalasari@kbin.social 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mysticism such as using psychics is also something oddly embedded with Nazis. Like, even back during their rise they were oddly into mysticism

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Nazis had teams of archaeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts. Hitler was a nut on the subject. He was crazy. He was obsessed with the occult.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Did you hear what happened when they found the Ark of the Covenant?

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know, I know. Doesn’t make it any less frustrating.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their reply completely ignores your point about psychics contradicting Christian beliefs, and it’s absolutely shocking that Faux News watchers even tolerate it, let alone enjoy it.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Psychics contradict some Christians beliefs, not all. Many believe in psychics. It's the more strict sects like Pentecostals or Southern Baptists that believe all psychics are evil. Oddly enough I agree with them, but for different reasons.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you'd think that, but...

You can claim "No True Christian", but clearly not all Christians believe cartomancy is forbidden. Christianity, as always, is whatever the individual believes it to be.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hard disagree. The Bible has verses that condemn psychics and mediums, not that that has ever stopped them from rationalizing other acts, but the Bible is anti-psychic.

When I was a Methodist, my churches were all adamant that psychics and mediums were either con artists or were coordinating with evil spirits or the devil, and it was forbidden. Same with Catholics. Generally in my experience with all American Southern Christians and some northern ones too, the more devout they are, the more against the occult they are.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Your interpretation of the bible is anti-psychic. Other Christians disagree. Some have even written books about it, as noted in my other comment. But the point isn't what the bible says...the point is that psychics aren't real, regardless of what Christians believe.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I’m realizing now that I misread your reply as “some Christian beliefs” rather than “some ChristianS beliefs,” but I was never implying all Christians believe the same thing.

I’m just shocked that there aren’t a significant number of Christians watching Fox News that would be pissed that they are putting a psychic on and promoting the occult.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's an understatement. It's clearly against the catechism of the Catholic church. https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-mediums-and-psychics-are-not-ok

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's Catholics, which some sects like the Pentecostals consider to be not Christians. And then you have people like this...

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can find anyone claiming anything, but the official doctrine of the world-wide largest and USA-wide second largest Christian denomination is a bit more likely to be relevant to the discussion than some random bizarre book.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

The fact remains that they still believe psychics are real, they just disagree on whether they are all evil.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

is fox news considered a news channel now?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be, but I do see it on TVs in public more often than any other news I think which is concerning

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

Everytime I see it on at the gym I want to tell them to shut that shit off, but I'm always afraid I'll start an argument with some boomer who will say they were watching that lol

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

News used to be 60 minutes just after prime time. Now they have whole channels with news 24/7/365. Have to fill all that air time with something

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

24 hour news is a blight. TBH 24 hours everything except for emergencies and medical services is a blight.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There’s plenty of interesting stuff going on in the world. Reporting on it doesn’t maximize profit.

CNN used to have shows about fashion, sports, entertainment, the arts, world affairs. They figured out that just having talking heads blab and argue with each other was cheaper.

CNN headline news used to be just a 30 minute broadcast about the day’s major headlines repeated on a loop every half hour. They didn’t really fill the entire 24 hours with different stories all day long.

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards. Again, it’s just taking heads now.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Similarly ESPN used to show sports of all kinds. Rugby, Soccer, bowling, snooker/billiards.

Yeah, although usually only kind of late. I do miss the World's Strongest Man competitions though.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Well I want to see a faith healer on Meet the Press. Maybe a magician on Newsmax too then.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My dad was not right-wing, but he went from us watching The McNeil-Lehrer Newshour once a day in the 80s to being glued to CNN and MSNBC all day. Almost literally all day once he retired. They found an American addiction and learned to feed it. For my dad, and I think a lot of people, it was a combination of the first Iraq war and the OJ live chase. Suddenly you could watch something really amazing that was news in real time whenever you turned on your TV.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

"now" has been longer than I have been alive.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You should watch the movie “Network” from the 1970s sometime. It predicted the trash that is news programming these days.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_network

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I absolutely love Network and agree. Essential watching and predictions way before it’s time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't meant to be a prediction though. It was meant to be incredibly broad satire. I mean the last line of the movie is- "This was the story of Howard Beale: The first known instance of a man who was killed because he had lousy ratings."

And honestly, if Fox could have just taken Tucker out with a .22 to the back of the head, they would have totally done that.

We're living in a comedy.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Yeah it's the same as 1984 and so many others, it's about the human condition and natural propensites.

The truth is things haven't really got much worse, I happen to enjoy Victorian newspapers and it's all the same nonsence and lies. People will always find a new way to lie and a new excuse to pretend to believe.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it technically 'light entertainment' or some shit so legally it's not obliged to report any facts?

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago

They defended a slander lawsuit that was against Tucker Carlson. They suggested that no reasonable viewer would take what he said as fact. Seems pretty damning.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It’s like the Colbert Report, but for racists, and 24/7 on a channel.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I turned on the news the other day and was lucky enough to catch the 10 minute segment on the new fucking kia the local dealership just got in stock.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Psychics are on news channels now?

Its on Fox "News", not a real news channel. You shouldn't be surprised that woowoo bunk is being put on the channel that's been spreading objectively falsifiable bunk for as long as they've been on air.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

“News” is the wrong word. “Dogma” is a better choice.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

It's almost like reich-wingers are idiots and will fall for the dumbest fucking thing

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

It's not a news channel, legally speaking