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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to try to assuage your fears regarding a protest meeting missiles or drone strikes. Yes, the President can order drone strikes with impunity. It's been that way since the first use of drones, early as the Obama era (maybe earlier, but I was a bit young then).

However, this does not apply to US soil. One of the benefits of state sovereignty is that federal armed forces can't operate on US soil. National guard gets involved, at the governor's request, but they don't have missiles or drones. Police are barbaric, but they also don't have missiles or drones.

So I don't think we'd see much of an escalation in terms of weapons of violence with regards to protests when compared to 2020.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If he declares it an official act, then it’s not illegal. Drone strikes are pretty official.

SCOTUS fucked up super-sized

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He can order it all he wants, but that doesn't mean any branch of the military has to actually carry out an obviously illegal order. All it means is that he theoretically "can't" get prosecuted for trying.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Soldiers swear an oath to the Constitution to not commit illegal orders, regardless of who orders them.

The issue is that the president cant issue illegal orders anymore. Since hes the commander in chief of the military, his orders are an "official act," i.e constitutional.

The supreme court has said that the president can order military executions of anyone at all and the military can no longer legally refuse. The above is constitutional, because the people who decide what is constitutional said it is.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

SCOTUS still decides what is or isn't an official act.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A huge portion of the military supports him.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And a huge proportion doesn’t.

Dont underestimate how many people join the military at 18 for financial/career reasons and often end up living overseas and meeting people from different backgrounds. It’s not as conservative as people might imagine.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago

I know that many do not, but I have no idea what the actual proportions would be. Polls are iffy.