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Video shows Phoenix police burning man during arrest: ‘Like acid on my skin’
(www.theguardian.com)
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It really should be legal to fire upon police actively engaging in torture/attempted murder.
That's a pipe dream. The first few people to try saving some innocent victim of police brutality will be dragged through the mud in the media and the whole ordeal would likely result in more legal protections for police and less rights for ~~police~~ the rest of us.
I didn't say it would happen. Just that's what it should be. These fucking pigs are out of control.
Get them under control then. I'm sick of the fucking "thoughts and prayers" generation.
We definitely need better ways of dealing with cops when they are the bad guys. Maybe some sort of police police.
Maybe we should have a guaranteed right to bear arms.
Incidentally, the police police are the FBI.
Bruh what
There's a long history of protest against police brutality, all over the world. How many have you been involved with? I'm tired of social media being full of lazy fucks who see shit like this and just say "damn that sucks" and go back to doing fucking nothing or pro-gun fuckstains claiming "Somebody should shoot them. Not me of course, somebody more expendable".
Dude, you don't know any of these people or what they do IRL. To go off like this for no reason is just some insane people stuff. Get some help, and get off social media if it makes you so upset that you create little stories in your mind of what people do or don't do with their lives.
Sure I do, because he has the solution of a fucking idiot: "We should be able to shoot at cops with our cool guns".
Maybe you should try getting more upset? If you're going to do nothing of consequence, you could at least do it with some passion. Even on an anonymous platform with no consequences, all you're bringing to the table is "touch grass" tone policing.
You're on social media, of course your feed is going to be flooded with chronic social media users. This is like going to the beach and complaining that there's sand.
Luckily, they have you to leap to their defense when someone tells them to act on their concerns.
Actually you're mostly ranting about an imagined enemy, not giving practical advice about making meaningful change.
Then I should have the support of the people in this thread then since they've made it clear that their preferred solution is tutting and suggesting dumb shit that helps abusive cops.
But oh no! I haven't been polite enough! I should have just advocated firing guns at people instead.
Are you sure they consider the police to be people? /s
It doesn't matter either way because if they've got their knee on the neck of an innocent person, it's not safe to shoot at them. Hopefully that doesn't spoil anyone's virtue signalling, macho fantasy because that's a tragedy far deeper than the torture, abuse and summary execution of innocent people.
But if I can't fantasize about murder how am I supposed to feel good on the internet?
Try harder.
Yeah that's what I said but it's unpopular when it's about something that matters.
Your solution is
"Just fix it"
Which puts a lot of just making it someone else's problem with no plan of your own.
No situation has been fixed without making so much noise or issues that it becomes another person's problem with power. If the solution was just people going out and fixing it then the world would be very different than it is now.
But it sure is easy to just be stepped back and making a claim for other people to figure out.
I've been an active part of two movements that saw police prosecuted and systemic changes implemented which also included being assaulted by police and requiring medical attention. I'm 100% comfortable with the contributions I've made. Every piece of progress and justice I've been a part of has involved (as you say), "making it a problem for people with power", not spouting pseudo-macho bullshit about other people shooting police.
I've fought for causes like this for almost 40 years and I've never seen people so fucking toothless. Forget actually acting on anything, they don't even make art art about it. They just regurgitate corporate talking points about guns and sulk on the internet if someone disagrees. They promote other people dying in a hail of bullets or spending the rest of their life in prison and they won't even send an email.
A criticism you're clearly not interested in applying evenly to the people in this thread.
Oh you've been shooting at cops have you? Following through on your super cool solution?
Well they'd be summarily executed by other officers, at the scene.
Their name might get dragged through the mud afterwards, but they'd already be dead, for certain.
If I was sitting in a jury, I'd certainly consider it valid
It would almost certainly not reach a jury.
Wouldn't even reach the hospital.
Selfless acts of courage often come at a very high price. The phrase "sticking your neck out" has certain implications.
There are people who fired on police breaking into their home and won on sale defense.
How many of those people were not white?
Even Breonna Taylor's boyfriend got acquitted after doing so. It does happen. Though I agree with you that it's likely a death sentence to defend yourself from police, no matter how justified.
Isn't that like the reason you have such lax ~~fun~~ gun laws over there?
Damn autocorrect
Lol...
Sucks that "firing" is what we're trying to get, when it should be "life changing legal consequences".
They aren't talking about firing them from a job.
Oh shit! Reading comprehension is my passion.
Yeah, that's much more based.