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"Translation: all the times Tesla has vowed that all of its vehicles would soon be capable of fully driving themselves may have been a convenient act of salesmanship that ultimately turned out not to be true."

Another way to say that, is Tesla scammed all of their customers, since you know, everyone saw this coming...

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 180 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Trust me, you just need to buy more compute for your car. We'll figure out reliable driving by sight someday."

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm happily using all the sensors my car offers, even if I'm pretty ok with driving by eyesight. Better sensors that can easily see through fog/rain/snow/whatever? Hell yeah, give them to me.

[–] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

LiDAR in particular actually kinda sucks at those conditions (basically any form of precipitation). It's really only good in clear environments.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LiDAR can be done with different wavelengths. It should be possible to make one that can see through rain and snow.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you shift the spectrum enough, you get Radar.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. But you don't have to go that far to make rain and snow transparent. And radar might not be a bad idea to have on self driving cars, as long as it's not the only thing.

[–] aaron@lemm.ee 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon Musks make engineering orders of magnitude more difficult. Those poor Tesla neoslaves

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They were on the path of self driving cars till Musk pulled the plug on the LiDAR and opted for cameras (cost less). He is directly responsible for why autopilot isn’t so auto.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And, since it's a car and not a plane, also not so pilot.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not a boat either, so no pilot x2.

[–] III@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, the LiDAR was primarily used for parking. Still a stupid decision to remove it. There were plenty of values it provides...but those cars were never going to drive themselves even if they did have LiDAR.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

It’s got something way better: LieAr

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

We'll fix that, the car will be driving fully autonomously 2018, promise!

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/7/24151497/tesla-lidar-luminar-elon-musk-sensor-autonomous

Tesla bought over $2 million worth of lidar sensors from Luminar this year