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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 149 points 4 days ago (7 children)

He claimed Los Angeles limits residents to just 38 gallons of water a day, and referred to some mythical "valve" that could bring limitless water to L.A., but that officials instead diverted to the ocean.

"They have a valve, think of a sink but multiply it by many thousands of times the size of it, it's massive. And you turn it back toward Los Angeles. Why aren't they doing it? They either have a death wish, they're stupid or there's something else going on that we don't understand," Trump said.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 172 points 4 days ago

or there's something else going on that ~~we~~ I don't understand," Trump said.

He was so close to realization.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't know if I can handle 4 more years of this.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If it's of any comfort I'm predicting he'll die within the next 4 years. But I'm also predicting it'll only get worse with his death so maybe there's not much comfort to be had.

[–] SpraynardKruger@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If he died of old age tomorrow, his followers would probably think it was a deep state assassination. There would be no convincing these nutjobs that an old, unhealthy person like Trump could die.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Vance will be even worse for the country.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Has Vance shown any dictatorial tendencies?

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. His podcasts appearances are probably the best source. The Behind the Bastards episodes about Curtis Yarvin do a pretty good job of covering it.

This article will give you a decent overview: https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

Thanks. Vance sounds like he is easily led. Scary.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No. Many people are going to die. I will not have that be erased.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

It sucks but sometimes it's a pleasant change of circumstances to see the USA fucking itself, first. We've been dying for decades.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I know three people leaving the country.

[–] dodiiat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

i dont disagree. we need to keep enduring, speaking out for, and fighting for those who will be negatively impacted by all that is to come. we cannot give up. im tired too...but we can do this

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Most but definitely not all.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Block social media that centers on him or politics. Find like minded people. Do things you love.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Burying your head in the sand while the country burns is not the answer.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look mate, I don't even live in the States and I need to keep my sanity. I did what I could when I felt like I could do it and Americans picked Trump, so I'm doing what I gotta do to survive. Is it selfish? Yeah, it is a little bit, but that's the truth.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

As an American, I'm sorry.

But killing yourself slowly with the ratcheting insanity helps how..?

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And what should we do instead that you're doing right now? I personally feel powerless in all of this.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, I don't have the right answer. I can still recognize the wrong one though.

That feeling of powerlessness over everything is what they want. It eventually leads to something called learned helplessness, where we no longer even try to change things.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just turn the giant valve?! Why didn't I think of that!

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago

Just use the weather control machine and make it rain duh! /$

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They either have a death wish, they're stupid or there's something else

You know what they say. Everything that comes out of their mouths is either a confession or projection!

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe hes thinking of the fact that ~80% of California's water goes to irrigation for crops instead of to communities.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tbf, the crops come to our communities. We love our fresh California produce. It sparks joy.

And the Palisades had enough water to drink and fill pools and grow landscape plants, and several people were hosing down their homes (a few died with hose in hand because the fire was way too strong for that and they should have evacuated but a lot of the rest of us made stupid decisions in the moment that just didn't turn out as deadly.) but the real problem was that wind. They couldn't do airdrops, the conflagration was too powerful. There was a problem with the hydrants, but honestly even if they'd been fully functioning it's not clear if much more could have been saved. Altadena had plenty of water too, with working hydrants, but that maelstrom of fire was just crazy, man.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem with the hydrants is they used 9 million gallons of water, which was their entire reservoir (3 3 million gallon tanks in surrounding hills for water pressure).

To feed hydrants you need massive quantities of water in a higher place for pressure.

The state is investigating why they couldn’t keep up, but I think it’s as simple as the system wasn’t built to refill their reservoirs fast enough

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Could be, it was an unprecedented situation. I'm also not sure if the water's all connected and the folks using their house hoses took water from more strategic hydrants. And there's perhaps a question to be asked about how hard it is under Prop 13 to pass property taxes for maintenance budgets.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Stupid does apply here, just not in the way he thinks it does. Also, who is "they"? Is he just referring to liberals?

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

I hate “they”. Whenever someone at work says “they” I immediately ask “who?” and don’t get off of it until they actually name a person. Does wonders for stopping the random boogeyman.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Also, who is "they"? Is he just referring to liberals?

A lot of people are about to have a crash course on how fascism works...

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That bit isn't wrong, LA could have more water

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Sure. At the expense of everyone between L.A. and the Colorado River.