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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No fucking way this is real data. Dont believe everything you see on the internet people this is clearly bullshit. Trump won yes but no fucking way is this data legit. Its just hate spewing this post should be fucking dropped for false information. No way blue states had all white men voting Trump lol fuck off OP.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don't know how that works, here's the Wikipedia page.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Link to the data, a source of the infograph, or something that can get me to interpret what I'm actually looking at. I tried to figure out where it came from and can't find it. I don't see how a wiki link to "The Electoral College" even begins to explain this infograph, and I think it's weird that you think it does.

Electoral votes are winner take all with the exception of Maine and Nebraska. With that in mind there should only be a maximum of 4 colors for all of these maps. Since they are using shades we are led to believe that it is a proportion of population. If it is in fact using electoral college votes than these maps highly manipulative.

The details are basically unreadable from how shitty this version of the infograph is. From what I can tell there's 4 different legends that are unique to each map. The colors, at least according to what I can read on the legend, only convey what each state is named and how many electoral votes each state has. That may not be the case, but it's impossible to tell since it's basically unreadable. The legends also appear to be different on the last map than they are on the first 3 maps. Again, I can't tell exactly because it's basically unreadable on every map.

There's no way to tell what the hell the data means other than someone pasting big bold titles. The fact that the titles don't appear to be displayed consistently and they cut out a dropdown on the left seems weird as hell. I have no way of telling what those selections were even within the tool they were using. Which seems like an odd bit of information to exclude.

Which brings me back to the most important point, there's no readable citation. All of these are cleared up with a citation to a source. The data could in fact be genuinely displaying what it's made out to convey, but I can't possibly tell that without looking at the source of the data, checking what/where the data came from, and then recreating these maps in whatever tool they used. A citation would at least be step 1 to make this infograph anything other than weird propaganda.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This. There is no shot that around 85% of white men votes Trump. Not a chance in hell.

[–] Remoed@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chart shows 60% not 85 for white men

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see upon zooming very far in that the pixelated bar seems to say electoral college but under it nearly unintelligibly it has the vote breakdown. Misleading.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's not misleading, that's how the electoral college works lmao. 49% of votes could go to the second-place candidate and the first-place candidate could still win every single electoral vote. The system doesn't care about people's votes, only the electoral votes matter for presidential elections. The map shows exactly what it claims to show.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Shows the vote totals below the bar. Shows the electoral votes on the bar. Super pixelated and small. It's misleading. I understand the electoral system you condescending twat.

Electoral college does that

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did trump win?

I thought there was a court case about this now.

This is why ballots should be manually counted. Those machines were not tested.

Regardless I also agree there is trouble with this data as when you cast ballots giving nationality and gender isn’t done on a ballot from what I understood unless this is different in AmericaUS. There is polling which can reflect but if nothing else I’m now forever dubious about any system that isn’t counted manually offline now.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No Trump didn't win. They stole the election just like they were screaming that they would. Here's the data about the failed attempt in 2020 and the successful attempt in 2024. This is the foundation for a ton more cases.

https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta

First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imagine being in this much denial about the reality of racist usa.

But on the other hand I would like to see a source. Edit: source fwiw.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

That thread says they were created using this tool, but I see no way to isolate genders there: https://www.cookpolitical.com/swingometer/2024

It looks like someone isolated the different racial categories, then tacked on "men" for superior click-bait.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Also no chance all black men voted blue either. Sexism is strong in this country, like really.fuckmorhering strong

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

Who are you going to believe? The incessent liberal urge to accuse minorities of being bigoted, or your own, lying eyes?

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also no chance all black men voted blue either.

That's not at all what this is saying.

Yeah but it is saying that literacy is a dying skill

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago

Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don't know how that works, here's the Wikipedia page.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None of this data is accurate. At all. This is sensationalist garbage.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago

Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don't know how that works, here's the Wikipedia page.