All I see is one of the dumbest nations on the planet and a clear indication that things will continue to decline regardless of whether Donald Trump is wasting oxygen or not.
Dark future.
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As an American who didn't vote for fascism, I wish I could argue with you.
If you're white and on the left its time you started infiltrating these conservative spaces. I do, and as soon as they see you are white all you have to do is ignore 1 racist comment and these people open all the folds for you. Its time to get dirty with the people spreading the dirt. The right wanted a revolution? They'll get it.
I'm barely keeping my sanity from fraying, the last thing I need is to make it worse by surrounding myself with people I hate.
If you're white and on the left its time you started infiltrating these conservative spaces.
I'll pass
It's not for everyone. The main reasons to 'change sides' so to speak is to simply get a vote in their primaries.
I get in there, once I'm trusted I talk about what they actually want from society, and then subtly make a pointed question if thats what the GOP is doing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but I always get them to question things and thats the most important part.
Soon it won't be enough though.
Tried it; it doesn't matter, in my experience. Conformity is way more important to these folks than they pretend, and once something like this starts getting traction, it gets labelled a thought crime and sealed away.
Did you actually build a relationship? Or just talk to someone in public? If you dont get to a first name basis its not gonna work. Its ass but, a lot of these people aren't hate filled monsters. The wools been pulled over their eyes. There is no consensus reality anymore. Most people aren't equipped to handle that. I've converted only eight people this way, but thats eight minds that have been rehabilitated to ask questions and seek multiple sources.
Believe me I have tried.
They're so scared of what they think is socialism, but what they describe is actually communism.
They don't know why either is bad, just that China has it and they don't want it.
Really guys
This is lemmy cmon, at least put in the effort to question the data source
How many of you even had an option to fill in your race on your voter registration form? My state doesn't even collect this info.
Its a shitpost that makes pearl-clutching liberals feel good.
Man = bad
White man = badder
🤷🏽♂️
Updoots to the left
So the reality that was spoken/written during the road to the elections all over Lemmy, were Biden and later Kamala were supposed to win by a large margin, was a false and utter lie? A fabrication?
Okay good
Now what's to say this isn't another fabrication as well?
A lot of people aren't on either the left wing internet OR the right wing internet. They're just not on the internet. They don't even watch Fox News. The sum total of what they know about party policy is "Republicans = Christians, Democrats = Atheists".
I'm a white dude, apparently one of the relatively few left ones. It's probably because of AuDHD, I grew up knowing what it was like to be in the out group. I lived full time in Honduras for a few years, and not with the military, so I kinda know what it's like to be an immigrant. I had to deal with their visa/immigration system there. It's not the same, I'm not saying that it is, but I've lived the experience of making community and friends and being reminded by the government that you don't belong here. I also got to see the immigration issue from the perspective of the people that are subject to it. A lot of these Trump fucks have enjoyed the luxury of never questioning anything, just cruise, watch your hunting shows, live in your bubble and recite your fox news/ tim pool bullshit. I know the type, and it is utterly inconceivable to them that the could ever end up in the out group, and it's a fucking interesting ride to be along for when they do end up there. Unfortunately, too few of them realize that they weren't just being singled out by the deep state or Satan because life is a show about them, and that that's just life for people in the out group.
No fucking way this is real data. Dont believe everything you see on the internet people this is clearly bullshit. Trump won yes but no fucking way is this data legit. Its just hate spewing this post should be fucking dropped for false information. No way blue states had all white men voting Trump lol fuck off OP.
Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don't know how that works, here's the Wikipedia page.
Link to the data, a source of the infograph, or something that can get me to interpret what I'm actually looking at. I tried to figure out where it came from and can't find it. I don't see how a wiki link to "The Electoral College" even begins to explain this infograph, and I think it's weird that you think it does.
Electoral votes are winner take all with the exception of Maine and Nebraska. With that in mind there should only be a maximum of 4 colors for all of these maps. Since they are using shades we are led to believe that it is a proportion of population. If it is in fact using electoral college votes than these maps highly manipulative.
The details are basically unreadable from how shitty this version of the infograph is. From what I can tell there's 4 different legends that are unique to each map. The colors, at least according to what I can read on the legend, only convey what each state is named and how many electoral votes each state has. That may not be the case, but it's impossible to tell since it's basically unreadable. The legends also appear to be different on the last map than they are on the first 3 maps. Again, I can't tell exactly because it's basically unreadable on every map.
There's no way to tell what the hell the data means other than someone pasting big bold titles. The fact that the titles don't appear to be displayed consistently and they cut out a dropdown on the left seems weird as hell. I have no way of telling what those selections were even within the tool they were using. Which seems like an odd bit of information to exclude.
Which brings me back to the most important point, there's no readable citation. All of these are cleared up with a citation to a source. The data could in fact be genuinely displaying what it's made out to convey, but I can't possibly tell that without looking at the source of the data, checking what/where the data came from, and then recreating these maps in whatever tool they used. A citation would at least be step 1 to make this infograph anything other than weird propaganda.
This. There is no shot that around 85% of white men votes Trump. Not a chance in hell.
Electoral college does that
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It's official, West Coast is the best.
Commiefornia can’t be cracked!
If you're saying that ironically to mock conservative labels, hell yeah brother!
Otherwise fuck off.
By random coincidence, eliminating women's suffrage is within the overton window of the Republican party.
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Would be interesting if in elections only the most disenfranchised populations could vote
If only they were allowed to vote, would they still be the disenfranchised ones?
White men I can understand (if not agree with). But come on Latinos, you should be fucking better than this.
"Immigrants are poisoning the blood of America"
"Yeah, ese. You tell 'em."
At least the ones in California appeared to know what was up.
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