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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 105 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If she throws her hat into the ring I fully expect the DNC to sabotage her at every opportunity.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

They will destroy her, she's worse than Bernie because she's not in her 80s, so they will sabotage her in every way possible. It's almost as if their entire scam depends on it keeping people like her out of office. They will at least be sure to keep her out of any leadership role.

I'd love to be wrong, as an Independent I will vote for her over any other person serving in office now. At least she's held an actual job.

The Democratic party is a private institution and won't be swayed by anything as silly as votes.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It isn't because she isn't in her 80s, it's because she poses the mildest possible threat to entrenched ruling class interests who own and control the entire media landscape, from CBS to CNN to Twitter to TikTok.

The wealthy ruling class would rather move towards fascism than socialism because fascism benefits the ruling class and socialism is a step towards dismantling the ruling class.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 3 weeks ago

I am so tired of elections being between corporations and oligarchs. Its not better just because it has a PR campaign behind it for a board rather than an individual who is wealthy. It only ever works for the wealthy.

Let's just hope the primaries are definitively clear...

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll play nice and keep it on the down low and then pull some Obaman, secret, backroom Super-Tuesday fuckery to steal the momentum and likely nomination from ~~Sanders~~AOC and give it to a center-right, corporatist shill like Buttgiggle or Shamala.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One party state where everyone has to get through the republican primaries? Big problem!

Two party state where everyone reasonable has to get through democratic primaries? Totally cool, totally legal.

Super excited to watch the blue conservatives show us how to really get that incremental change when there is a one party system. Ready to take notes!

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not sure I understand, are you in favor of one party states, or opposed to them?

[–] berno@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Jefferies will never recover from the AIPAC Shakur nickname. Absolutely wrecked him.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, we all want AOC and Bernie. If Bernie wants to VP, I'm all in.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, just let him be VP for as long as he is useful. If hr wants, I'd vote. But better someone else like AOC who can look out for the present and future of our country. There have to be others like Bernie who can do good for us and not start wars.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

He can be in the cabinet, but he's too old to even be the VP.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

i dont care about his age, but his position on Palestine has always been weak and shameful. im not an AOC head, but im hoping for her at this point too.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd also vote for Bernie (VP or Pres.), still. But, I think there are younger progressives that could fill the role quite well.

I'd even take someone more centrist for the VP role, since that might make it easier for them to attract (Super)PAC monies.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, there has to be someone out there who is presidential grade and not a total asshole or a party bitch. You know like "we'll raise your taxes to build schools, but we'll raise them triple to billionaires" vs "what schools? You look Hispanic we'll send you to Honduras but after a 3 year sentence".

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In this moment, any candidate who receives super PAC funding from corporations or Israel is a bad candidate.

Centrism is dead. The right is dying. This is a time for moving towards socialism.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We are still a FPtP system, you don't get to write off the majority, if you want to gain political power through elections. Right+Center > 50% of electorate.

Taking resources away from "bad" organizations, and using them for the socialist project is a good thing. The trick is not given them (as much) value in return.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right+Center > 50% of electorate.

You're wrong, but of course you're welcome to your opinions.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow, what a surprise, someone who believes that two party politics is representative of the left/right of politics is wrong about things.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You don't appear to have read the second source, which contains almost identical numbers for Left/Center/Right labels. That shows that (a) both of my sources are relevant because (b) in the U.S. party politics does track left/right politics.

In addition, you have still failed to provide any evidence for your claims.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wow, you had two links that you made look like a single link then acted like it was my fault for not realizing it? Okay lmfao, very obvious good faith discussion right here, it's definitely not worth my time trying to convince you by finding sources that clearly show that Americans overwhelmingly support socialist policies but do not identify with socialist or leftist labels because of a lack of political education.

You can believe whatever you want. Infosec.pub always has bad takes. I'm like 99% sure at this point that it runs out of Eglin.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans overwhelmingly [...] do not identify with socialist or leftist labels

So, you agree that what I claimed "Right + Center > 50%" is correct.

Thank you.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Must be hard sheltering your dying world view from reality all the time. You have my pity.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I follow the evidence where it leads. These days, that's often to a dying world, and it is sad.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You follow the skewed evidence that the mainstream liberal media feed you to keep you in line with the narratives that keep the powerful in power.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

I follow whatever evidence I can find or am presented with. But, yes, there is a bias toward the evidence you describe -- there's power invested in getting me that evidence.

That said, I don't actually watch that much TV and I'm not on the "normal" social media. I get a lot of my news here (and the wider Fediverse -- big fan of 404Media and ProPublica) plus "Some More News" and "Have I Got News For You (US)" and "Last Week Tonight" YT channels. Still, I'm sure my media diet could use more attention -- I know my food diet could! (For reference I'm 265 lbs. on a 5'8" frame.)