This is a disaster waiting to happen, especially when reputable mushroom books look like this
this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2023
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No doubt, this is the best mushroom book imo. It's on my shelf as I type this.
Wait... is that a joke? AI mistake, guy with a trumpet for a hand, or weird photo angle? Now I'm confused 😯
Heh no that's the mushroom forager's bible right there, going back many years, it's assigned reading for mycology students and very reputable. It's funny how much it looks ML generated, but it well predates ML image generation. For reference, he's holding a flesh colored mushroom and a trumpet.
Oh, now I see it! It's a trombone, half hidden behind his leg, and his fingers under some huge chanterelles... guess that's the joke? What a weird photo.
Never seen that guide, guess it hasn't been translated. We only have some Cantharellus Lutescens around here anyway, which don't look anything like that, so the joke would be lost in translation. Well, TIL.
Could you clarify what the joke is? Is there a pun here that I am missing picking up on?
This entire thing is absolutely fascinating.
Chanterelles, start with "chant" as in music, have a trumpet-like cap like the trombone cup, the Latin name Cantharellus is derived from "cantharus" meaning a chalice, cup.
It's only missing having a chorus, a mug, and taking the photo in Chanterelle, France:
Are there any other good mushroom bible books to check out?
Oh dear.
That is truly a terrible idea, and Amazon should be liable since they do exercise control over what they sell (which I know, because I have two books for sale there).
I've reported multiple listings for pet treats that contain substances known to be harmful to dogs, and they've taken no action.
I've done the same with several listings for grills that have galvanized grates. Nothing ever happened. Amazon really doesn't care.
ooh can I ask what books? I'm just curious 😅
But if I tell you, I doxx myself :)
Ah the balancing act of marketing one's stuff online and potentially outing yourself online
This is why you should always have a multitude of alt accounts for different reasons
Ie FarceMultiplier and FarceDivider, where FarceDivider is used to build a specific public facing image for when you talk about your book, and FarceMultiplier is used for shit posting.
That's not a bad idea. I'll message you with a link. Won't be Amazon, but what I'll send you is there as well. I make zero money from Amazon sales. It's a terrible platform for minor authors.
It’s a terrible platform for minor authors.
Mind if I ask what a better option would be? Looking to release some work myself in the next year and was going to start looking at which options would be best.
Since my books are for TTRPGs, selling on DriveThruRPG has been better by far. I've made hundreds of dollars from there and under $10 on Amazon. Amazon tricks authors by allowing them to publish there then pushing those authors to pay to advertise their own books...which I did, but made zero difference. I'm also on Barnes and Noble, but made no money at all there.
However, as an author I've used their services to print copies of my books to put in games stores and that's been very cost effective and made me decent money.
Nice, some of my material is also ttrpg related so that's especially helpful haha Thanks!
I love DriveThruRPG for grabbing RPG books, I’m super happy to know it is better for the author!
using amazon for books is like using aol for internet access
not arguing, but what do you use instead (other than your local book store)?
Is there a way to see specific reviews of sellers or is it strictly a star system? I love the site design, it doesn’t e n d l e s s l y dick around with you like amazon’s current setup.
I do not recall, i have not used it much since i got my college textbooks in 08.
I'm really excited about this, thanks.
They've even got a music section with lots of vinyl!
I buy most of my books from ebay (or AK Press for serious stuff), but this is even better!
lol my city has several libraries which aren't book stores.
What do you mean? Kindle store is not bad at all
Amazon is terrible for physical books though. I have never bought a new book off Amazon that didn't come damaged. Not once. Used books are ok usually, because the sellers take care to pack them properly. But Amazon simply does not care at all. Oversized art book loosely thrown into a box too big so it gets to slam around the inside constantly in transit is the norm. I use Alibris these days.
yeah thats on me. im old and remember them for selling physical crap forever ago, plus i forgot people pay for digital stuff.. again, not my thing.
Oh grandpa, digital stuff is great! You can read any of those hundreds of books on the go (given you didn't forget your glasses, that is)! You should definitely try it next time you go fishing!
digital stuff is great!
Until they pull a 1984 and delete your copy of 1984
I mean, do you really want to miss out on such a real life dystopian experience?
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Yikes, and I thought the AI generated children's books were bad for society.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why?
Robert Evans wrote a post on it and did multiple podcast episodes.
The TL&DR is that AI-generated children's books are crap, without a coherent storyline or any literary niceties like "foreshadowing" and "beginning middle and end". Kids are still learning what stories look like, so if you hand them AI-generated stuff they might know it's unsatisfying, but they can't put into words why their books are wrong.
Sadly, it's another hustle. If you spend enough time on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and TIkTok, you may see ads for "business opportunities," which include a bunch of ways to spend lots of wasted time on things that will supposedly give you "passive income". A lot of them consist of stringing together crude tools to supposedly run a business without actually running anything. For instance, you can learn how to set up a business on Amazon where someone else manufactures your products and Amazon stores and ships them, and supposedly you're now a business owner. Obviously, it doesn't work.
One version of this is becoming a "published author" by having stuff written either by ChatGPT or what are essentially slaves in the global south, and then self-publishing it as ebooks on Amazon.
Again, there's no real money or sense of accomplishment, but people are desperate, and so people try it.
there's no real money
No "big" money... but some people have either little income, or live in a country where even a "small" amount of money can go a long way.
This is my experience so don't rely on it: Most mushrooms won't kill you but some will make you so sick that you wished you died. Even a small bite of the deadly Destroying Angle will most likely not kill you. Only eat a very small amount of a new-to-you mushroom because even safe ones may trigger a fatal allergic reaction, also "safe" Morel mushrooms have killed people who really, really over consumed them.
Get a real "National Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms", book and download the "Seek" app for your phone. Find a person who experienced and go slow. NEVER get careless or over confident.
Then there's the permanent kidney failure...
In the United States, where I used to travel often and widely, you have to pay for dialysis and it’s extremely expensive. In New York it cost me $1000 a session.
It's worth pointing out that this is because the author is a foreign national. Americans with permanent kidney failure are guaranteed Medicare even if they're under 65, and Medicare part B covers outpatient dialysis in full. Signing that into law is one of the few good things Richard Nixon ever did.
Thanks, interesting. I'm glad America gives everyone dialysis too. I live in a country with universal healthcare, so I sort of skimmed over the cost aspect because that wouldn't be an issue here.
It is more the physical, quality-of-life-ruining aspects that give me the horror. I read an article once where a family of 4 all had severe permanent kidney damage from eating the wrong mushrooms.
You made your point well. Hell, even if they paid me for the sessions, I feel like it would be such a miserable way to experience life.
I have a friend who needs dialysis, and it's really limited her ability to socialize and travel freely.
Until I started to see stories like that I thought about fungi in terms of death/not death, and didn't realize the life-changing injury part in between.
Your poor friend. To be fair I can't travel anyway for health reasons, but multiple organ failure still seems worse.
It's also worth pointing out that $1,000 per session cost is probably the least bad thing about dialysis.
Most mushrooms won't kill you
That's not very reassuring
I don't think it was meant to be reassuring. @rayyyy@kbin.social is right, don't mess around with fungi. You can get irreversible kidney damage.
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As always, the dose makes the poison.
A common scenario is people picking the wrong species and then not just eating a small bite, but cooking an entire meal and eating that.
A small bite may not kill you, but just one mushroom (50g) can be enough to do it.
There are some toxic mfs out there and they can be mistaken for edible lookalikes by inexperienced foragers.
People need to stop using zeroGPT it does not accurately detect ai generated text.
Amazon won’t care because nobody will hold Amazon accountable.
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