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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 155 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

Looks like it’s going to be a fun flu season this year 🫠 Every day I feel more justified in my decision to relentlessly mask with an N95 every time I’m indoors in public.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

didn't cats already get the virus from drinking the raw milk? honestly at this point if only they wouldn't end up infecting a bunch of other likely non-retarded individuals, I'd be inclined to just let them kill themselves with this and pass on beleiving that they proved their point. More realistically, they will probably spread it and kill a bunch of other people that way then still act like they have uncovered some great fucking secret, while somehow being the only survivors of the incident.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 84 points 5 months ago (10 children)

These raw milk fools never learn. Raw milk has always been dangerous. Now even more dangerous. Avoid raw milk.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You say that like it's a way tuberculosis spreads.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You say that like it's a way to get infections from Campylobacter, E. coli, Listeria, Salmonella, Brucella, and Cryptosporidium

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 27 points 5 months ago
[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's just a bunch of big science words for "exotic", doesn't exotic milk sound delicious? I'll drink my wild and untamed milk that is free from all the rules society uses to make it boring and safe. And since even I'm not sure if this is coming across sarcastic, /s. And for good measure, /poe's.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Baccilus cereus and Clostridium perfringens.

Although the abdominal cramps and extreme diarrhea might be considered a normal day for those morons.

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[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 71 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The California-based Raw Milk Institute called the warnings "clearly fearmongering." The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

By all means, drink up, morons, get the hell out of our gene pool, we've got enough troubles without your Dimwit DNA.

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is they infect the rest of us.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crazy. The zombie apocalypse started from people wanting to become infected.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one would watch that movie because it would be too dumb of a plot line.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’ll only be a matter of time until the virus mutates and successfully transmits from human to human.

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll still be safe. I don't generally drink human milk.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, human milk is almost exclusively consumed by humans.

[–] inspxtr@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

tell me more about the “almost” part …

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don’t have an inside scoop, I just try not to speak in absolutes. It’s probably a safe bet that someone, somewhere, must have a story to tell.

[–] inspxtr@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

welp, guess you’re right. It’s not common but not just a few someone’s either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93animal_breastfeeding

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 26 points 5 months ago

The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

It's like the "facemasks are causing COVID-19" thing.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen

It's like homeopathy but even stupider

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 15 points 5 months ago

To be fair to them, that is pretty close to how immunity actually works. Not quite there though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Well it will give immunity, to the ones that survive.

[–] fuzz00713@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Is raw milk the new anti-vax?

[–] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know there are also conspiracy theories around pasteurization. Supposedly it doesn't work and you don't need it. Oh and viruses are a hoax. Or at least that's what my very self educated husband of my cousin believes.

[–] 8ender@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Can we just call this what it is as likely troll farm activity to sow discord in western society. I’m tired of it now being called out.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (11 children)

"Viruses are a hoax" seems to have been growing ever since COVID. I never encountered it before that, now I've encountered it multiple times. There was a guy in the skeptic sub on Reddit who came in to argue like mad that viruses didn't exist.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I’ve assumed for some time that that Venn diagram was nearly a circle.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You know I used to think that would be great for all of these idiots to catch and die from whatever plagues they damn well like. But then I remembered that there are children in the world, And then also immuno-compromised people. Innocent people don't deserve to be the victims of mass stupidity, especially children. If you're stupid enough to do something terminal or life ruining, fine, just make sure that it doesn't impact anyone else. Go destroy yourself in private.

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we all have to endure another pandemic that will further worsen our overall health... we really do live in the dumbest timeline.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think I may have long COVID or something... I got COVID in November, recovered, then caught a cold in January and have been sick since. I just want to be healthy. Why do the stupidest among us have to fuck everything up?

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

you know what i won't miss? these people.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

When someone catches it from drinking raw milk with the virus in it, it might affect other people too.

What we really do not want to happen is for human-to-human transmission to start, and every time a human gets infected, it helps create a risk for a mutation that starts that going. We know that the virus is in the milk supply right now, so it's not just some distant hypothetical.

If you remember, we had a lot of criticism for China over the role that wet markets with live animals might have played in starting the jump to humans on COVID-19. I'd rather not turn right around and have us be responsible for creating a window for a new pandemic due to doing something similar.

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[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (13 children)

It's all milky fun and games with a side of creamy fat until someone gets a case of brucellosis.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biden should tell everyone NOT to drink raw milk. Farmers will make tons of money and love him for it, and darwin will take over costing tRump votes. The end result will make for a better America.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

At this point Biden could summon a genie to grant everyone in America three wishes and people would still blame him for not giving them six wishes.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can we just skip to producing a vaccine for this now? If they're that intent on giving it every possible chance to jump to humans, and we obviously can't stop them, let's at least try to contain it before we get Pandemic 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago

We have made H5N1 avian flu vaccines many times before. We have one developed as recently as 2020 that's been approved by the FDA for use in humans, not sure how great it is against the current incarnation though. Flu is quite good at evading vaccines, hence the need for frequent updates.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine

The US government funds vaccine development for viruses that might become a problem at some point. There's also work into expanding rna vaccine technology, which can allow for very quick updates as viruses change. We need way more work and funding on pandemic prep and surveillance. We've all seen how devestating a global pandemic can be. Even if the vast majority developed never end up needing use, one of them may save millions of lives.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccine-makers-are-preparing-for-bird-flu/

Anyways, if an H5N1 pandemic started tomorrow, there's a vaccine that would probably be helpful already made. Would need to be scaled up massively in production of course though.

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Shocked Pikachu in 3…2…1…

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS!

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