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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 114 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Did no one read the article?

This was actual legally defined bribery of a state lawmaker and the accused executive is going on trial.

What the article doesn't address is whether the legislation this bribe was paid for, will be repealed or impacted.

FYI it was a bill to remove AT&T's obligations as a Carrier of Last Resort in Illinois.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Well I'm not going to now!

Thanks, btw

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It absolutely should be repealed. Though lately my sense of justice is skewed.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)

why doesn't this result in immediate repeal of the legislation if this comes out??

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And remove any government contracts. Exclude them from.any future government bids for 10 years.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Revoke their corporate license. Death of corporations and criminals charges for those in charge should be on the table.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

That's another thing. Should telecom really not be a utility in this day and age? But we let Nestle sell us water so that is never gonna happen.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Would that not be cruel and unusual punishment? Since we're considering them individuals via citizens united, a death penalty for bribery is extreme.

Criminal charges for those in charge and those who actually did the bribery, totally tho.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha damn your right. What if we plant a few grams of cannabis in the parking lot?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

FUCKIN JAIL FOR EVERYONE WHO EVER WORKED THERE

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah ... good luck with that considering how entrenched AT&T is is.

For example after 9/11 it was decided the country needed an interoperable public safety broadband network: The First Responder Network Authority (FirstNet).

I'll give you one guess as to which carrier got the contract to build and operate it.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It's very frustrating. Here in Ohio, there was a maybe bribery scandal on a bailout for two energy companies. The former house speaker and one or two other legislators got prison sentences.

The bailout stayed in place, however, and all Ohioans are stuck paying an extra $50 a month, just for having a fossil gas line active. If you have a gas stove, water heater, or furnace, it's fifty bucks a month just to be able to use them, plus whatever you actually use on top of that.

[–] nick@midwest.social 57 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Bet they get fined all of 1 million dollars.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cost of doing business as usual.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

It's not like anybody in the government would actually consider a proper penalty. They need to stop having flat rates or stupidly linear fine scales with a cap. They need to make it an exponential scale with no cap, based on the net worth of the corporation. Same with the tax rate for rich people. But neither of those will ever happen because the companies and rich people write all the laws and then their puppets just sign off on them.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Read the article please.

23 million in 2022, but the former president of AT&T was personally indicted on Friday.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was just the president for AT&T Illinois. The actual high muckety mucks won't get in any trouble.

[–] nick@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago
[–] nick@midwest.social 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok so what is 23mil to AT&T? Jack shit. It’s the cost of doing business, there will be no serious repercussions.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I agree, which is why it's WORSE that they were charged 23 million and still consider it the cost of doing business.

It's also like .. line 3. Literally asking for the smallest amount of effort here.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why would they get fined for doing something that is perfectly legal and that every other company does daily?

[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

22 grand... Are you fucking kidding me? That's all it takes? They should put att out of business for shit like this. Not a slap on the wrist here. How much did they make from bills passed due to this scheme?

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

TBF they got caught with 22.5k so realistically more wouldn't be feasible.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I love how many of my fellow Americans crow about how we're so much better than the "corrupt" nations of the world.

Our bribe culture is merely more expensive. It isn't done at the peasant level as much solely because our owner class has cornered and legalized the bribe your own regulators market and made it too cost prohibitive for the peasants.

And when Americans "protest" by permit in designated protest zones, at designated protest times, deliberately out of the eyeline of those they're protesting and allocated/placed so as not to disrupt, we might as well masturbate at home. Protest means disruption, and if Americans actually protested in a potentially effective way that disrupted traffic and commerce as it should, our militarized police would go China/Russia/etc on our ass to protect capital gains over human life.

Our answer to corruption isn't to just turn a blind eye, it's to legalize it for the owner class and make it their exclusive domain.

Honestly, this country had more humanity when the mafia ran it than today's Wall Street reptiles. And that's no endorsement of the Mafia of old, just further condemnation of the owner class that would bathe your children in lead saturated water if it made them an extra nickel that quarter. At least the mafia occasionally took care of the mother/child of the people they killed, and wouldn't shut down their community's parks and sabotage their community's schools for a slightly larger take that quarter.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago

Honestly, this country had more humanity when the mafia ran it than today’s Wall Street reptiles.

Monsanto execs have a higher body count than many war criminals who set out to commit genocide, for example.

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago

I forget which case it was but politicians were accepting 10k amounts for votes. A quick whip round could get that money.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Criminals in this town used to believe in something

[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

I can only assume you're not referencing this article in your rant, because the guy responsible for this one is under criminal indictment for it

[–] giantfloppycock@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

Bribe? I thought they called it lobbying in the US?

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

The $22,500 was paid in nine monthly installments of $2,500 in 2017, the filing said.

I hope they get slapped with structuring charges too.

[–] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 months ago

Hm, no mention of the “then-Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan” facing any charges for accepting the bribe.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I think the correct headline should be "AT&T got outed on paying bribes to get two major pieces of legislation passed". You can bet they did not only spend bribes on just two pieces of legislation.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Isn't this just lobbying but in secret?

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Well I mean, yeah. Nobody is surprised by this. Except that the government is actually maybe possibly thinking of considering hypothetically doing something about it.

[–] detective__bunk@real.lemmy.fan 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

There's an actual trial about it. That is new.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

You mean the cost of doing business?

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I am shocked this headline didn't come up sooner

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Aww, give them guys a multi-billion dollar contract! /s