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Why are so many things on Ebay even more expensive then what the item would be brand new from the store?

I was searching for a Motorola MA1 Wireless Android Auto which is $80 brand new in a store, but on Ebay they are anywhere from $100 to $200. Even if it is pre-owned. It seems impossible that anyone is ever going to buy this so what is the purpose of these listings?

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[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

eBay has become the place for scalpers to sell overpriced wares, after they emptied store shelves. From toilet paper to graphics cards, that's where the buyout stock, sell for profit happened.

Now even without shortages, this philosophy persists at eBay. Nothing to lose for them, free money to make on uninformed buyers.

Worst case they end up not selling and can possibly return items for full refund.

Scummery at it's finest

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably listing bots that scrape eBay to decide what price to set. It can lead to some pretty interesting results.

See the $23,698,655.93 book on Amazon. https://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Lmao I used to "collect" listings like this a while back. When pricing bots go out of control, shit gets wild lol

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that device out of production? They might be counting on limited availability to jack up prices.

Is that product not available in all markets? They might be counting on someone in Sweden, who might not be able to buy that device is willing to pay a premium.

Was there a recent price drop? Maybe this is listed in the product's old peice amd they are slow to drop it.

I wonder if it it just straight up money laundering.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure if it's out of production, but you can buy them for $90 at a Target

[–] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The MA1 is not worth the trouble. It is soooo finicky. I've had to factory reset and re-setup on multiple occasions from things as simple as walking out of range.

After me and my daughter spent a full hour trying to get any of our phones to reconnect to the damn thing, I had had it and sent the thing back to Amazon and got my $100 back. Much happier just using a cable again.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the AAWireless one and it's not perfect but it almost always works. If it doesn't work then you can just unplug it and plug the cable into your phone. Worth it.

[–] HReflex@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

Just got mine yesterday but yeah the AAWireless has been solid for me too.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never had an issue with mine. Seems to be car radio dependant honestly. Had a cheaper wireless android auto in my previous car that worked great but refused to work in my new VW, grabbed the Motorola and it hasn't given me a problem.

[–] PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Same here. Mine has worked flawlessly since June of last year when I got it. Connects every time. Love it.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

For some reason, no Motorola phone I've ever owned has played nice with Android Auto over the cable for me.

It's a known issue, but I've not been able to make any of the random fixes floating around actually work. Multiple phones in multiple vehicles using multiple cables. The only common factor is Motorola. Which is a shame because other than that, Moto has been a solid mid-range choice for me all these years.

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a while when Motorola couldn't keep up with demand, so they were out of stock in most retailers. These are probably leftover price-gouging listings from then.

Unfortunately, it's pretty well proven that people will still buy something at a ridiculous markup if it isn't available otherwise.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think you are right with old listings and then maybe new people looking at old listings to make new listings without verifying.

In addition to what others have said already, keep in mind that the items in this list are the ones that did NOT sell. If there were 100 cheaper offers and 30 that demand a batshit insane price, the 100 cheap ones will be sold eventually and disappear from the list, leaving only the batshit insane ones active.

Just an example ....

The prices for that thing vary extremely but guess which ones get actually sold ...

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Part of me wonders if eBay is doing some price fixing.

They suggest prices, they offer AI generated descriptions for your products, they handle the shipping fees and process all of the money from buyer to seller and take their cut in the process.

But if they are suggesting prices and causing the price of everything to increase so that they can increase their cut of the proceeds then it seems like that might be if not illegal then at least concerning and possibly legally actionable.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you get ebay to suggest a price?

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Squander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ive seen ebay show the prices of similar items that have sold/for sale. But I've never had ebay suggest a price.

[–] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

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Four eBay listings for Motorola MA1 Wireless Auto Car Adapters.

The first listing is for a pre-owned Motorola MA1 Wireless Car Adapter for Android Auto by seller garyinok11. The image shows the adapter partially resting atop its manual. The listing is priced at $95, +$12.25 shipping.

The second listing is for a brand new Motorola MA1 Wireless Android Auto Car Adapter NEWSEALEDSHIPS TODAY by seller jotam-25. The image appears to be a stock photo of the adapter. The listing is priced at $189 or best offer, with free shipping.

The third listing is for a brand new NEW Motorola MA1 Wireless Android Auto Car Adapter USB Bluetooth FAST SHIPPING by seller beautysupplyoutlet88. The image shows the box for the adapter. The listing is priced at $189.95, with free shipping.

The last listing is for a brand new Motorola MA1 Wireless Android Auto Car Adapter Dongle - FREE Shipping ! NEW by seller ausgoods1. The image is the same stock image as the second listing. The listing is priced at $127 with free shipping from Australia.

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[–] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because why not, maybe someone will buy it from you as they don't know better, and you cash in the profit. It doesn't cost anything to post something on eBay after all.
Some of them don't even have the thing in the first place, if someone buys the listing they go get one from Amazon or a local shop and send it.

If you actually want to know what people are willing to pay for something though, look at the completed auctions.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Even beyond the realm of automated retail arbitrage, I am continuously shocked at the literal junk people will pay money for on eBay. I work in the durable goods industry and I have random odds and ends... extra components, parts, boards, etc. that just accumulate here so sometimes and I don't know what to do with. So I slap them on eBay and without exception some punter buys them. Probably under the expectation that they'll be able to flip it for a profit. But I have to figure that most consumers have no idea what the random handles or control boards or what have you would even fit. But someone wants to pay me to take my trash out of here, so... I guess I'm not complaining.

And then I see the retro nerd youtubers paying big bucks for hilariously out of date PC components. One of these days I should dredge that old milk crate full of ISA and AGP cards out of the basement and post them all.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because people do pay the money.

If an item is hard to find they will pay it.

People that only buy stuff on eBay will pay for it.

If someone randomly sees the item they need they will buy it.

Example: I paid $2,200 on eBay for an RTX 4090 FE because they were sold out everywhere. The extra few hundred bucks for me was worth it to get the FE card over 3rd party cards since it is the smallest and quietist of the bunch. None of the other 4090s fit in my case.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scalping I can understand completely, but this is a thing that is still made and available all over the place.

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Intl shipping? 🤷‍♀️

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

The MA1 specifically was out of stock for a while which lead to high prices on secondary markets. Like most secondary markets when the primary market supply goes up there's a bit of a lag before the prices fall down again.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ebay is like a free market in itself. If someone post a product and it sells for an extravagant amount then other sellers will increase their prices... because capitalism and all that.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is not "when you sell things for profit."

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correcting someone is not trolling.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saying 'Youre wrong!" is trolling. If you gave some insight of why I would be incorrect, then you might have some merit. So, What type of economic system do YOU think ebay uses? Private individuals control the production, the market is run by supply and demand, individuals (ie companies) decide how much products and services are worth. Thats reeking of capitalism.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You not knowing what capitalism is just means you shouldn't discuss it.

Capitalism is not the concept of selling things. It is when private individuals or privately held companies invest in other companies, and seek to profit from such investment.

Trade predates capitalism by thousands of years. Also consumers set prices, by indicating how much they are willing to pay.

Trolling is when you start a meaningless argument on the internet with the sole intent of making someone angry. The less the troll actually cares about the argument, and the longer they can draw it out, the more "successful" (I mean, I guess) the trolling is.

It's named after the type of fishing, because they're just dragging bait around hoping to catch someone in their game.

[–] Squander@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks troll.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Huh? Get the AAWireless, it's better.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Billy_Gnosis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eBay is still the only game in town for a lot of items. Vintage record albums to name one.

Aside from some of the other reason already talked about, a lot of people are delusional. They think their second hand trash is worth millions.

Saw a person trying to sell a "Rare" Cinderella Black Diamond VHS tape for $400. Those things are a dime a dozen and you get one for $10.00

[–] Quatity_Control@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

... Discogs and Facebook groups would like a word regarding vinyl

People still use eBay?

Do you have a better alternative to find old parts and vintage items worldwide?

[–] ParanoidPizzas@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Get the AAWireless instead 😉

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Oh man, let me introduce you to my absolute favorite used book seller:

https://www.ebay.com/str/secondsalecom

Also, construction leftovers on eBay are a great way to get sink faucets, light fixtures, etc. for a house.