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Donald Trump said he would accept home confinement or jail time after his historic conviction by a New York jury last week but that it would be tough for the public to accept.

"I'm not sure the public would stand for it," the Republican presidential candidate told Fox News in an interview that aired on Sunday. "I think it'd be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point."

Trump did not elaborate on what he thought might happen if that point is reached. He is scheduled to be sentenced July 11, four days before Republicans gather to formally choose their presidential nominee to face Democratic President Joe Biden in November's election.

Asked what Trump supporters should do if he were jailed, Republican National Committee Co-Chair Lara Trump told CNN: "Well, they're gonna do what they've done from the beginning, which is remain calm and protest at the ballot box on November 5th. There's nothing to do other than make your voices heard loud and clear and speak out against this."

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[–] Drusas@kbin.run 154 points 5 months ago (5 children)

How the fuck is stochastic terrorism not illegal?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 125 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is but only for leftists. Thanks, McCarthy.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How you gonna wrap a law around it? Hell, even with something as "obvious" as this quote? Trump said nothing that "incites violence". He's playing the mob boss thing, again.

If 01/06 wasn't enough for our government to take action, nothing will be. And again, what would that action even look like?

I've preached many, many times on here and reddit that libs need to get armed, educated and practiced. Is that terrorism? Fuck me. I'm just saying that the conservatives are ready to kill us and we should be prepared to defend ourselves.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You are aware that Trump was indicted for Jan 6 right? The trial is on hold while the Supreme Court decides if he is totally immune to legal consequences.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

They do fine for, oh, the Panthers, black wall street, occupy wall street, war protesters, hippies....

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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 147 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well, they’re gonna do what they’ve done from the beginning, which is remain calm and protest at the ballot box on November 5th. There’s nothing to do other than make your voices heard loud and clear and speak out against this.

From the party that literally lead a violent insurrection intended to overthrow the government and install Trump as a dictator for life.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they’ll do it again in 2029. The most important part of that quote is their commitment to getting him another crack at it.

Vote in November.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Fuck me don't say 2029. I feel my youth draining away

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

At every step of consequences a facsist will say:

If you hold me accountable, they'll be consequences

What they leave out, is if we don't hold fascists accountable, everyone in power starts acting like they're not accountable. Before you know what's going on, all the possible options are corrupt. And it's no longer about winning, it's about mitigating how much you'll lose by.

But you always keep losing.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

It's a ruse. MAGAs are planning and scheming, likely with Putin's help. They will obstruct voting, corrupt results and use violence. The Republican party is in its death throes, replaced by the insane authoritarian MAGA party.
Vote - your life and your families lives depend on it.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 89 points 5 months ago (2 children)

sure sounds like he's sending a 'message' to the cult here of what to do if he actually gets locked-up.

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 15 points 5 months ago

My thoughts exactly

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He's right, it would make me drop whatever I'm doing and plan out a party that night. We should do it more often.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to imagine what the day should be called?

"Grab em by the bussy" day?

Ah, I'm still working on it....

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump already had the perfect name for it. Covfefe

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 62 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It'll be a breaking point for me, for sure. I'll be breaking out the good booze.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago

I have a bottle of champagne that was a wedding gift.

We uncork it the day Trump goes to jail.

[–] PPQ@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't ever want to hear another republican ever utter the words "We're the party of law and order" ever again...

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They must mean the television show.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Law and Order, Special Victims Unit

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[–] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Let them go off. January 6th showed they are incompetent. Let them push their violence again and put much of the public against them again right before the election. They won’t accomplish anything of importance and they will show their hateful agenda isn’t what most of this country wants. Faced with it directly, most Americans aren’t ready for insurrection and domestic conflict. I think any reactionary violent attack right now will be the end of their movement.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 35 points 5 months ago

The Beerhall putsch was terrible planned and executed as well. Past failure doesn’t necessarily mean they will continue to fail.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 5 months ago

Yup. Except this time the president won’t hold back the military like Trump did.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 16 points 5 months ago

Cult 45 is a bunch of pussies. How many of them are willing to die for a cheeto? There's going to be enough military there this cult will get curb stomped in about .4 seconds. I hope they do, maybe it'll take a few child molesters and a few future mass shooters off this planet.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I had a nickle for every headline I've read that has "trump says"

This mother fucker gets entire news articles every time he talks. The least interesting and most predictable man in the world has the news reporting his every word.

I can't do another 4 years. I can't.

Please stop treating politics like a cultural, intellect, personal identity battlefield when engaging in this topic. Your "opponent" will see it that way and have their gaurd up, only listening to what to say to try to disprove it rather than hearing what you say. Your job is to change that, so they actually find themselves having a conversation. Asking questions, giving more level but still emotional arguments (not sensationalized like this(

This shit isn't helpful, it isn't convincing anyone of anything. In fact I find it harmful

It sounds like he is just whining but the underlying message is there may be more violence if he is prosecuted. He is setting up a threat of violence. "They are going to do what they did since the beginning" is a threat. What did they do in the beginning??? Hmm oh idk unite the right rally and all that jazz. And bookends with one of the most significant moments in American history where the president encouraged and allowed an insurrection to take place for 6 fucking hours while ignoring pleas from his staff, family, legal counsel, and fellow government officials particularly his closest.

But you have to be able to have enough context and a depressingly low bar of critical thinking skills to read between the lines in the article, especially when the headline primes you for what another nutty thing he says and then the reader just decides if they think it is a bad thing to say or not. Ugh. UGH. Thanks for sticking this out

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago

Only one way to find out!

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I sure hope so.

There's a significant number of Trumpers who are just itching to put on their ~~brown shirts~~ red hats and start wreaking violence.

At this point, it's not really a question of if they do it, but just of when. On that point at least, Trump is right. He just doesnt acknowledge the fact that the reason those people are reaching a breaking point is that he's self-servingly fed them a steady diet of propaganda and hatred.

So they're going to go off the rails - they're vtoo ignorant and too angry and too misled to do anything else.

The worst-case scenario would be that they do it after Trump has (god forbid) been elected. Because then they're going to get official sanction. They really will be the new brownshirts.

The best-case scenario is that they do it soon, and in response to Trump being rightfully sentenced for the crimes of which he has been rightfully convicted. In that case, they're going to have neither the illusion of legitimacy nor official sanction, and they'll just reveal themselves as the lawless, petulant, violent asshats they are.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

And hopefully either held in jail without bond or be convicted felons who can't vote.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

Even more reason to do it. Trump shouldn't be excused from being held accountable just because his supporters don't like it, along with any people in power.

[–] REdOG@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they'll live stream the evidence again

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 10 points 5 months ago

And pose for news photographers.

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 24 points 5 months ago

When he came to be indicted in Miami, he was expecting fans and supporters everywhere. Nobody cared enough to show up except street vendors. Speaks volumes to me.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Yawn. I’ll be break—dancing

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

oh i surely hope so. it's time for fuckmerica to find out

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

hell yea storm the capital lmao

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I doubt it.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

If he is not jailed it will be the breaking point for Americans

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

The closer we get to his sentencing, the more violent his rhetoric will get.

[–] Enceladus@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

makes wanking motion with hand

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

A break in the right direction. Fuck that orange dork.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Look, I hate Trump.

But I do think he is a symptom of a larger problem. There's a bit portion of America -- Blue and Red -- that aren't being served well by American politics. We have a huge homeless problem, millions can't find good jobs, millions can't afford to rent -- let alone buy -- homes. Higher education costs are through the roof. Health care costs are through the roof. (I guess I should move away from using the expression "through the roof" when discussing how many people are homeless, but I digress.)

We've got big problems and it doesn't matter whether you're Blue or Red or who you blame -- those problems aren't being addressed in a meaningful way.

Trump could disappear tomorrow (Are you listening, God? It's America) and we're still going to have a big portion of our country out of work, out of home and out of health with a bleak future to look forward to.

Desperate people turn to extremism and religion. I'm not excusing that behavior, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't come from nowhere.

People that are happy, secure, treated justly/equally/fairly, have good incomes, can educate their kids, afford healthcare and can retire safely will not try to overthrow their government because there will be no one willing to listen to them.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 40 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Stop playing the 'both sides are the same song.'

The ACA was based on Mitt Romney's Massachusetts plan because Obama wanted to make it easy for the GOP to swallow it.

If the US is in trouble it's because one side has been trying desperately to screw the other and doesn't case if the public suffers too.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. I'm so tired of seeing this "I hate Trump, but..." bullshit. Because that's what it is -- bullshit. Yes, we have problems, MUCH OF WHICH IS CAUSED BY THESE MORON CONSERVATIVES AS WELL AS THEIR GODKING!

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

The kitchen is dirty, and it's on fire.

Yes, the kitchen being dirty is a problem. It probably even contributed to the fire, and makes putting out the fire even harder.

But you have to put out the fire before you can worry about anything else.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

You're right. But that would mean politicians would have to stop kowtowing to business, start re-regulating Wall St, and begin to support social justice cause (tax rules, public housing, business regulation, etc). So unfortunately it's unlikely to happen because the whole gd world is so far down the rabbit hole we are blind to what could be.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

There's one party who has a lot of people who want to address the problems you point out. There is another party that wants to remove all ability of the government to address any of those problems you mention because they think that will solve the problems.

The problem with the former party is that they can never get a large enough majority to do anything about it. The way our government is set up, you need more than slim majority in both houses to get anything meaningful done, unless you can get everyone of the people in the party to line up behind it, any you'll inevitably have hold outs.

Your post is just more of the "muh both sides!" nonsense. The problem isn't that neither party listens, it's that the one who wants to stop the government from being able to do anything about it keeps getting at least near 50% of the people to vote for them.

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