I'm sad it's news when a president/presidential candidate announces something totally reasonable.
this post was submitted on 06 Jun 2024
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I’m always disappointed hearing news about Biden. So boring and normal. Where did my emotional rollercoaster of reading the news when Trump was president go?
Dark brandon better beat that facist dumbass come november though.
He probably would’ve announced this anyway, even if politics were much more normal than they are now. The thing is, it wouldn’t have been so newsworthy. It would’ve just been a normal, reassuring statement that we all expected to hear.
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I think this action likely lowers Hunter Biden's chances of winning the presidency to zero for 2024. Not that Hunter Biden is even running for President, but from everything the GOP say, they certainly think he is.
Impeach Hunter Biden!
I dunno. Perhaps the GOP will vote for him if he’s convicted? They seem to go for that sort of thing.
Idk, have you tried showing his dick to a bunch of people, in the fucking halls of congress?
I don’t like this timeline
I'm just waiting for the first republican to criticize Biden for not caring about his son enough to pardon him.
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Cool. But you legally can. But you probably shouldn't.
Okay. Cool. Good call.
honestly the 'pardon' ability needs to go away completely. maybe it made sense before, and/or wasnt abused, but now it just seems prepped to be a tool to release your fellow felons in crime.
Clemency is a useful tool, it just needs reform. Some states require it to go through a committee rather than just handing the power to a single official. There are probably other ways to curtail abuse as well.
That's only if criminals are elected. Biden used the pardon in 2022 and 2023 to pardon many minor weed related offenses.
It's still insane that politicians are involved AT ALL in the justice system.
The pardon is a last-ditch effort at justice. I'm fine with it.
POTUS can only waive off on federal crimes, the states still have hold on their own convictions. And even then, the governor can pardon.
Even if abused now and again, it's still good for the broader system.
They can be useful for things like spy exchanges, but I do agree the system as it exists is ripe for abuse
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Donald Trump announced shortly after that he too would never pardon his son Eric. He was quoted as saying "I never liked that kid."
"I don't care for Eric."
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I feel like if the shoe was on the other foot (Don Jr in trouble) Trump is bitch and moan that it was politically motivated and a witch hunt and then pardon him.
Just like that moron did with other criminals that should not have been pardoned. BTW now that that piece of shit is a convicted felon, we should start to undo anything he ever touched while in office. All those pardons he did, send them the fuck back to prison. Just like how crooked cops have their previous cases under scrutiny.
Yeah! Time for Afghanistan 2! /j But for real, we can't just broad brush this thing. While most of it was shit, probably several things were decent things that got through in spite of the administration's ineptitude.
You realize the office of the US President is involved in important things in the world, and isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?
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Republicans will attack him either way.
Pardons Hunter:
"Biden is abusing the legal process for his son! Biden crime family! Reeeeee!!!"
Refuses pardon:
"Biden doesn't even love his son enough to pardon him! Reeeeeee!!!"
Which is why there is no dialogue with people arguing in bad faith.
And we as a society need to recognise that, and act accordingly.
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Nah, they don't want to draw attention to Biden not abusing the justice system for personal gain, because it undercuts the whole "he's abusing the justice system for personal gain by prosecuting political rivals!" It would absolutely be a counter productive strategy.
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As a semi competent politician its obvious 1) you have to say this and 2) you do your upsetting pardons after the election
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He won't need to. They're in the wealthy class so the son won't get much jail time if any. Nobody interested in hiring him would give a fuck about this conviction.
We have a two-tier system. It has been obvious for a while, but Donald getting $1,000 scoldings for sending Trumpanzees after the court's staff and family has shone a spotlight on the discrepancy.
There's always been a 2-tier system, through all nations and all times.
One of my favorite parts of Noble House, set in 1840s Hong Kong, was a Chinese guy disgusted with the English notion of "equal under the law". "Of course there are different laws for the rich and poor! Why else would I strive to be rich?!"
I think on that now and again.
"Some day I might be rich, and then people like me better watch their step!"
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Literally the only answer to this question, though. He can't say he will pardon him, politically it would be terrible and it might impact the trial itself. And he can wait until after the election and pardon him then, even though it will mean he was lying now.
I don't think this comment is particularly newsworthy.
It's newsworthy when Trump is out here saying that he's going to go scorched earth on anyone who has ever wronged him.
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Fox News: "Biden weaponizing justice department against own son!"
Eh, I'd do it on the last day for grins.
If he loses then he definitely should, one last fuck you to Trump since our boy Joe won't get another chance.
This. He should have said, “I’ll only pardon my son if I lose the election. Voters, it’s in your hands now.”
Day after the election.
Why does Joe Biden not simply say the Deep State arrested his Son and then Pardon him and Blame any and all NEGATIVE Media on the Deep State too?
Biden's voters aren't dimwitted cultists.
Does he need to for what is likely to result in the standard well-to-do white guy punishment of a small fine and community service?
And when he does, watch a bunch of other rich white guys complain that he's only being let off because he's the president's son.
He was only investigated because he's the president's son
The dude bought a gun while high off his ass on crack. If it were anyone else, the Dems would be up in arms about the person not being arrested while the Republicans would be defending his right to bear arms. I'm not seeing too many people saying Hunter should be let free.
I'm not saying he should be let free, but I am saying they're clearly seeking a disproportionate penalty than what most people get, because it's politically motivated.
That could never happen in America, come on now
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Integrity. Something the republikkklowns have never heard of.
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