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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 163 points 2 years ago (8 children)

"During the sentencing, US district judge Timothy Kelly, who was nominated to the bench by Trump, said the evidence suggested Tarrio was “the ultimate leader” of the seditious conspiracy, “the ultimate person, who organized, who was motivated by revolutionary zeal”."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/sep/05/proud-boys-jan-6-biden-trump-trials-senate-politics-live-updates

I can think of someone else, Judge Kelly. The tangerine nightmare that appointed you.

[–] transmatrix@lemm.ee 80 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ugh, right? Really sounds like they set up Tarrio to take the fall for Trump. Fuck that.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the picture they're painting, but unfortunately for them nobody's buying it.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for us, someone probably will buy it. Somehow, there are millions of people who legitimately think Trump is the freaking Messiah.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's very true, but all of their minds were made up about that years ago. I know the average person is fucking stupid as fuck, but I can't help but wonder how many people are still sitting on the fence when it comes to Trump.

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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 102 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's good that he's going away for 22 years. However, the sentencing guidelines called for between 324 to 405 months (27-33 years) so by the Judge's own calculations this is a miscarriage of justice and yet another right wing domestic terrorist is being handled with kid gloves. Fucking disgraceful.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He was an informant right? Distasteful as it is, informing has to be publicly seen as providing a tangible benefit, or future criminals wont talk

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sentences can include upward and downward departures from the guidelines based on the circumstances of the case. It's also important to remember that the guidelines are non-binding on judges.

[–] PR3CiSiON@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

So it's like the guidelines are just guidelines?

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[–] Squirrel_Patrol@lemm.ee 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's even better is him thinking he's not going to be in prison long because Trump is going to win the next election and pardon him. My brother, there's a greater chance of Trump becoming your cell mate.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah... Even if Trump wins there's no way he remembers or cares about anyone involved in Jan 6.

These guys are way more screwed than they realize.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Trump is a narcissist who cares about image and the cheers of crowds. If pardoning J6 traitors gets him that, he will do it.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

It's true he doesn't give a damn about these people but they're useful for his scam. He's already said he'll pardon people and will continue to say it because it suits the narrative he's pushing and what his base wants to hear.

The problem is he is toxic and will only get more so as his legal issues turn into jail time so it's unlikely he'll win election. If he were smart he'd drop out and secure a pardon from a more electable GOP nominee in return for endorsement. But he won't. So it seems that these proud boy / oathkeeper idiots are likely to be spending a long time behind bars.

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[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago

Couldn't have happened to a prouder boy

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Waiting for Trump to be all "When we retake what's rightfully ours, I'll make sure those who were wrongly imprisoned by Crooked Joe Biden are exonerated as the patriots they are!"

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Those in prison can't vote so Trump will just write them off as useless.

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[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump might say that but he’d never actually do it. He never does anything to help others.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago

Should be 222 years. Rot in cell, traitor.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mark my words they'll try and break him out.

Don't trust these fuckasauruses to play by the rules.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

They're fascists - the rules exist exclusively to protect them, and subjugate those they don't like.

They play by the rules - it's just their own rules that boil down to toddler-tier "I win."

I'm glad the fuckasauruses are turning into foundoutasauruses.

[–] remer@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

Good. Fuck that guy.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

LOL GET FUKT TRAITOR!

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Traitors only get 20 years? Dang, soft punishment for treason, but at least it's something eh.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Don't think you understand what 20 years in prison looks like.

I don't either, but it sure would ruin my life

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Only" 20 years? There can be whatever number and people will still say it is too little

[–] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Historically, people who attempt to overthrow their government get death. Hell, they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years? We've gone soft.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years

Yeah but in reality the UK doesn't have the death penalty for any crime anymore, including treason.

Meanwhile the US regularly executes people for a single murder.

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[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guys losing 1/3 of his adult life, and won't get out of prison before his 60s. I'm extremely anti-j6, but 22 years seems like a nice hefty sentance to me

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

May he die from an embarrassing and uncomfortable medical condition exactly 5 minutes before release.

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

I saw numerous videos where these guys went out of their to beat the living shit out of blm protestors (not rioters), while calling people antifa - who clearly weren’t, in broad daylight, and nothing happened to them. I can only imagine if I were one of their many victims, that seeing this would be give me some great pleasure. Especially since the “fuck around and find out” rallying call was the thing they said as the brutalized people who were simply protesting brutality.

[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Delightful!

[–] MattyXarope@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
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