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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 134 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Higher body temperature is associated with depression, but severe depression will lower it to room temperature.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

This is such an odd comment for people to upvote. The human body runs around 37c / 98.6f. A “room temperature” body is literally a corpse.

(Edit: I’ll leave the comment. But yes, I’m a moron.)

[–] Emotet@slrpnk.net 86 points 4 months ago

That's the joke.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And you've now taken your first steps into the world of dark humor. Congratulations!

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

User name checks out.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Lol, for your edit, and willingness to leave the comment. Have an upvote.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If not for your sub thread, I wouldn't have caught the joke, so thx 🙏

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago
[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh. So, thermodynamically speaking, severe depression can be classified as an abnormally high heat dissipation coefficient. Solution should be easy.. Insulation. dusts off hands Physics saves the day again! Somebody tell some techbros and Peter Thiel. I smell a medtech startup!

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thays one of them billion dollar ideas, warm blankets to help treat depression.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, it COULD be a billion dollar idea if you used rrreally cheap materials for the blankets - like, recycled asbestos - and also produced, say, medicine for lung cancer in one of your subsidiaries.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You must be some sort of brilliant businessman, getting them at both ends like that. Where do I invest an irrational amount of money to get in on the ground floor?

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Porn too? Man, all you need is alcohol and mortgages and you got everything covered.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

..sorry to be breaking the fourth wall here, but man, it would be hilarious if you actually thought x.com was porn xD couldn't blame you, though. If you weren't playing, I see it as my moral duty to remind you of this weird timeline we are in, where Elon bought Twitter and renamed it

[–] Cyteseer@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I hate articles like this. Implying some sorta of causal relationship with any and all scientific papers that have a correlation between two properties. You can't write that the paper "suggests" lowering body temps would improve depression when the paper only finds a correlation between the two.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People with expensive well worn running shoes have better cardiovascular health. So let's give people well worn running shoes to improve their health.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

I like this comparison because it makes me think of a company that is administering a medical trial type program to improve cardiovascular health — I'm imagining a "farm" type place, where undergrads are on treadmills, taking new, expensive running shoes and running in them until they're "well-worn". It's very silly, and I thank you for this mental image.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It's obviously causation. That's why there are so many depressed people in Hawaii and so few in Alaska.

Wait ..

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Aah, the mandatory "correlation is not causation" remark ;)

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've read depression is also linked to chronic low level inflammation, and inflammation causes heat, I wonder if that's the reason?

Anecdotally I suffer with chronic depression and always seem warm.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Most likely, yes. Depression is also correlated with lower immune function, so I'd guess that's one of the ways it tries to compensate.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So if you go back through records they found that old recordings had a higher body temp. The old explanation was the instruments were off calibration. But a new idea is that body temperatures used to be higher, with the idea that with better hygiene and better food supply our gut microbiome is not as active. I wonder how that all squares with this. Anyway, I hope this current finding is not focused on treating what's likely a symptom and not the cause.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago
[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Science can talk?

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This better not make people dismiss my depression because I run cold...

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

No, they will continue to do that because it makes them uncomfortable.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Wait, so if my girlfriend says I'm hot that doesn't mean what I originally thought?

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago

Ehh…

Interesting, but since the study was primarily a tag along survey to detecting COVID, I wonder if they controlled for folks who were on SSRI’s, and if the distribution of participants was across the equator, or primarily in areas of the world that experienced summer during the survey period (March-Oct, 2020).

It’s known that SSRI’s contribute to a heat intolerance that is typically more noticeable during summer months. It’s described as feeling warmer, and is accompanied (sometimes) by decreased production of sweat.
Heat Intolerance and Psychiatric Medications - Psychology Today

That’s not to say there may be some (or a lot, even) merit to this study, but I’m curious about those two issues - if they had been controlled for.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm cold and sad. This is bullshit.

Also, I live near the research hospital. Our neighborhood is freezing and foggy, and the med students don't bundle up. I think this data is biased bc the only warm people are at home all the time, hence statistically high per capita depression. /s

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Most scientific findings are based on averages, and so a generalization will not likely apply to all people