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Donald Trump has told a rally in Michigan that he "took a bullet for democracy" when an attempt was made on his life last week.

Attended by thousands, it was Trump's first rally with new running mate JD Vance - and first since he survived the assassination attempt.

He told a packed arena in Grand Rapids that Democrats have accused him of being "a threat to democracy" and, to huge applause, said he was ready to "take back the White House".

Many of those at the event, in the battleground state of Michigan, told the BBC that the assassination attempt - which killed an audience member and wounded two others - would not stop them from showing support for the Republican presidential nominee.

Some said they came precisely because of the shooting.

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[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 106 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This man lies like he breathes.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

One of the few things that he understands is to accuse other people of exactly what he’s being accused of. If Trump gets called a threat to democracy, he’s going to accuse Biden of being “the real threat to democracy”.

It’s from Steve Bannon’s playbook called “cover the field in shit”, and it stops low-informed voters from easily determining what’s going on, as it plays into a prevailing narrative that all politicians lie. It’s brilliant, it’s wicked, and it’s quickly pushing us towards fascism.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, John F. Kennedy took a bullet for democracy. You don't even want democracy.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't even want democracy.

Trump's intent is easy to judge because we've an adequate and reasonably consistent history of his actions.

The shooter's intent is tougher because it's clouded with judgement of his means. But, if Trump so obviously fights against democracy, it would seem a reasonable assumption that the shooter's intent was the preservation of democracy. And, they didn't just formulate, but carried out a plan that certainly would end in death in defense of democracy.

Regardless of judgement of the shooter's means, what do you think of his intent?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think if you kill Hitler, you get Chancellor Göring.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree that the means are misguided and in the example of why.

But, I asked a question about intent.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm not sure why their intent matters at this point. They didn't manage to kill Trump like they apparently wanted to and they're dead.

I'm also not sure why my personal speculation on their intent matters. I'm no one special.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"I took a bullet for the thing I'm trying to destroy."

Sure buddy.

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[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, the dead man behind Trump took the bullet, Trump only stood in democracy's line of fire. And still stands.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Trump got his ear grazed by a bullet for dictatorship.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This act that the Republicans are putting on right now, to make themselves seem more moderate than they really are, to appeal to centrists, is so unbelievably transparent. It's obviously bullshit, but what's terrifying is that it might actually work. Democrats appear unsettled, Republicans are unified. Trump's assassination attempt makes him seem sympathetic to many. The only thing left for the Republicans to do is convince voters that they've totally changed and that things are going to be different this time, and that it's not going to be like before, they promise. Unfortunately, like an abused spouse, many American voters might give Trump and Republicans that second chance. God help us all.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

All they have to do is convince everyone they will be opposite of their recent actions. Yeah sounds easy.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

No, that's not true. They don't have to convince everyone, they only have to convince enough people. They know very well that many millions of Americans would never vote for them no matter what, but they also know that many millions of Americans will vote for them and millions more might, if properly persuaded.

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that retired firefighter that Biden had to shame you into acknowledging took that bullet, Don.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

You mean the one who took his children to a convention filled with hate fueled maniacs? That retired firefighter?

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Called it.

I said to my co-workers as soon as I heard he got shot at, he was going to claim that he took a bullet for America and Democracy.

But it wasn't exactly hard to call it....the guy is a major narcissist.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He let that bullet slide right past him and into that young family man he fooled.

He fooled him into wanting an king, and then his king passed a bullet onto him.

Isn't it true that trump didn't even call his widow and biden did!? And she refused the call...

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Took a bullet implies he intentionally got shot...

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

No it doesn't. The saying is usually meant to signify that you intentions put yourself in danger and ended up getting shot.

Most soldiers that take a bullet for our country would much rather have not been shot but accepted that risk as reasonable.

[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Took a bullet usually not means "zipped past my ear and took a tiny bit of ear off".

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

I'm semantically torn here. He did (narrowly) take a bullet and shooting on politicians is an attack on Democracy. On the other hand he's not exactly on friendly terms with this whole Democracy concept.... In case of friendly fire, can you say you took a bullet for your enemy?

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Clearly he didn't take enough of it.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] shani66@ani.social 18 points 3 months ago

*from democracy

Easy mistake for a senile old man to make

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

I thought Republicans HATED Democracy and were Actively calling to Eradicate it like it was a Trans Child?

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Took a bullet means the bullet touched him, I thought he got nicked by shrapnel from his teleprompter screen shattering?

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

From what I've seen several fact checks have confirmed that the teleprompters were intact and that trump did get shot.

I wanted to say he didn't get shot, but i think that this was just a rumor that spread wild

Edit: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He thinks he's some Helldivers guy

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well he did say if he had been at the Parkland shooting, he would have confronted the gunman himself.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago

Whelp, anyone who took bets on him acting like a war hero over this can now go collect your winnings - which is just more listening to Trump unfortunately.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

There it is.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger. I took a bullet for democracy.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, buddy. That's why the guy tried to shoot you. Sure.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"He died for our sins."

I didn't ask him to do that.

[–] Username02@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He is not even dead. I want refund.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Maybe we can convince them that he is so that they won't vote?

Who am I kidding, they would absolutely vote for the corpse of Trump.

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I'll settle for the belief that he died for my shins, but no more.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I prefer candidates who didn't get shot.

What was in it for him? What a sucker. What a loser.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That's the kind of thing people who want to be king say.

It's not like there's not an abundance of proof available you anybody. You can listen to his calls on YouTube. The man is horrific.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

"BuT wE'rE a CoNsTiTuTiOnAl RePuBlIC"

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Try harder next time Donny. Just stand still.

[–] fisco@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago
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