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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 167 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

They should do an anti documentary. Show Reagan as the blood hungry man that actively sought to gut government spending for mental health institutions, show him in backrooms smoking cigars to cut taxes, and talk to the CIA director to funnel crack in neighborhood.

Bonus points for downplaying aids specifically to target the gay community.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 104 points 11 months ago

So... an actual documentary with facts instead of a conservative puff piece?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 65 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And the war on drugs stuff, and the Iran-Contra stuff, the DoH grant rigging, Ill Wind, loans crisis, Wedtech scandal and so many more classics!

After all, he's number one in the hall of fame for convictions/indictions of Administration officials. A whooping 138 record, making him the Babe Ruth of corrupt US government leaders.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Don't forget the press secretary literally laughing as gay people die, until Reagan's friend Rock Hudson got HIV.

Yes, just like Trump and COVID, Reagan's some policy on HIV was "do nothing and hope people don't care".

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[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

If you put it like that I would prefer production, casting and direction like Narcos (Mexico / Griselda etc). Sublime in picturing another era and pure nitty gritty of real life back then. Without fake glorification.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 94 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One of histories greatest monsters. He ratted out fellow actors during the red scare. Real POS.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (17 children)

This is comically hyperbolic. Ronald Reagan isn't even the greatest monster in the history of US presidents. Frankly I'm not even sure he was the greatest monster to serve as president in the second half of the twentieth century.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago
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[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

fawning celebration of its subject

That’s all I needed to hear to know that it’s bad.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

Funny, all I needed was the title.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

That's saying something since Borderlands was also dropped this year.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently,The Crow has stolen Bordelands' crown as biggest flop. That's impressive.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least borderlands isn't about a person who's helped lead the world to ruin

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I haven't seen the movie or read anything about it.

But the writer also wrote a sequel to God's Not Dead, if that gives any indication of where this sits on the reality/lunatic spectrum of right wing shithousery.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I'm not really looking forward to the inevitably Obama hagiography, but releasing a movie like that right now would at least be timely. Reaganism might still rule our world, but Reagan - as a personality - hasn't been relevant in decades.

Left out of this scene is Reagan’s “Make America Great Again” remark, no doubt to avoid drawing parallels between its protagonist and Donald Trump, and it’s the first of innumerable instances in which McNamara and screenwriter Howard Klausner warp history for one-note lionization.

Which is a shame, because Trump really is the modern incarnation of The Gipper. He cribbed from Ronnie's playbook extensively and won with similar constituencies in a comparable upset campaign. Where Trump really failed was in his lack of an Evil Empire motivate the country against. Instead, he got a killer virus, which his own brand of cynical bumbling fascism was ill-disposed to confront. If Reagan had been held to Trump-esque standards for the AIDS epidemic, I wonder if he'd have suffered the same fate to Mondale in 1984. But AIDS was a disease for minorities, rather than rich old white men. So Reagan got to be the hero standing at the end of Cold War history, rather than the plague bringer that decimated the domestic economy.

Nonsensicality abounds, never more so than in Petrovich’s explanation for Reagan’s success: “People will not give their lives for power or a state or even ideology. People give their lives for one another, for the freedom to live those lives as they choose, and for God. We took that away. The Crusader gave it back to them.”

A bit of a shock to hear this, given the steady slide church attendance takes with the Gen X, Millennial, and Zoomer cohorts.

Considering its ceaseless hero worship, it’s unsurprising that Reagan concludes with an Alzheimer’s-afflicted Reagan riding off into the sunset. Yet for all the effort it expends trying to sell the late president as the embodiment of American virtue, McNamara’s film is so ungainly and transparent that it plays like embarrassing propaganda.

I can't think of a more perfect ending to a movie about one of America's premiere propagandists. But it feels like a message totally out of time with the modern audience. A "Hopey Changey" conservative throwback to a period of political optimism and a utopian vision of a single all-encompassing (fascist) movement that could sweep the nation.

If the movie falls to deliver, perhaps that's less the fault of the producer and the director than the man they sought to embody in their work.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can’t think of a more perfect ending to Kevin Sorbo’s career

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yes, but, hilariously, not in the trailer

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorbo is always involved in shit like this. He plays a pastor or some shit

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 11 months ago

I just went to the movies and saw the poster for it, first time I had heard about it. I thought to myself, okay, whatever. Then in the trailers I saw not just a tease, but an ad for some theme park thing connected to the movie you can visit? And I thought, WTF?

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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The crow: get in line!

Borderlands: Amateurs!

Seriously though... What the fuck, 2024?

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

One of Deadpool's box office superpowers: all others (made or released same year) will fail

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Twisters: Forgotten me already, huh?

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

Ronald Wilson Reagan

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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I HAAAATE biopics about recent history. It's not entertainment. Doesn't matter if red or blue tinged it's still trash because the story needs to be "interesting" instead of the horrifying truth:

There is only power. And those who desire power above anything else.
And people who want other things. The rest is just window dressing.

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[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

I wonder if they include the conversation between Reagan and Nixon where Reagan called black people "monkeys."

Or the Lee Atwater quote where he talks about his strategic use of dog whistles and starts it off by saying the N-word three times.

Man, Reagan sucked.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, Reagan was one of the worst humans of all time.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I saw the trailers for this and was like "Wait, is this a 'real' movie? It looks like one of those religiously funded 'Fathom Events'."

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But is it worse than the Johnny Lingo reboot from the Mormon church?

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[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Minecraft movie: So far…

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quaid? Isn't he the guy from Total Recall?

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna get fucking loaded and watch the shit out of this movie.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i cant imagine its worse than the crow reboot. i could barely get through the trailer. even borderlands was tolerable.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does feel very hold my beer over yhe last couple weeks/months

[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget, Madame Web was this year too.

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