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Ex-Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president Chris Deering does not believe recent layoffs across the games industry have been a result of corporate greed. Instead, workers who have lost their jobs should "drive an Uber" or "go to the beach for a year" until employment settles.

Deering was a guest on games writer Simon Parkin's podcast My Perfect Console, where the pair discussed games industry layoffs.

"I don't think it's fair to say that the resulting layoffs have been greed," said Deering. "I always tried to minimise the speed with which we added staff because I always knew there would be a cycle and I didn't want to end up having the same problems that Sony did in Electronics."

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago (3 children)

just go to the beach for a year.

I am advocating violence against this man. This post is a call to violence.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They should go to the sun for a year

[–] msage@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

I'll donate his yearly salary for this cause

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the very least they should be left outside in the sun for a year.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

That would at least be on par with what he's suggesting to his former employees.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

There is a precedent where someone said hungry people should just eat cake.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That was the most out of touch thing to say. Clearly these execs have never sweat from actual work in their lives that they think people can get comfortable with no income.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perfectly reasonable statements made by an individual very much in-tune with the video game development community and its members.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

Every year another stable genius is born

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 month ago

I don't get why executives need all this money.

If they are hungry, can’t they just eat shit?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

C-Suite pay precludes equitable worker pay. They are always lying through their teeth.

The fact that CEO compensation has grown far faster than the pay of the top 0.1% of wage earners indicates that CEO compensation growth does not simply reflect a competitive race for skills (the “market for talent”) that also increases the value of highly paid professionals more generally. Rather, the growing pay differential between CEOs and top 0.1% earners suggests the growth of substantial economic rents (income not related to a corresponding growth of productivity) in CEO compensation. CEO compensation, it appears, does not reflect the greater productivity of executives but the specific power of CEOs to extract concessions.

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Totally tracks with the idea that the eventual destination here isn't capitalism, it's actually worse than that...it's fucking neofeudalism.

They don't want to produce a better product than the competitors, they want to extract rents from anyone unlucky enough to need to use the tools or knowledge in their fiefdom, and they want to use those rents to buy up more tools and knowledge to charge rents on.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, rent seeking is the best case scenario for a capitalist. You just insert yourself in the supply chain without much investment and get money for simply being in the chain.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You're right that every capitalist wants to be a landlord, but the distinction between the two groups is that capitalists aren't there yet, and capitalists are largely also subjected to rents by those that already are.

A lot of the recent movements in software has been away from selling products and toward rents (i.e. away from capitalism and toward neofeudalism / technofeudalism). That is why everything has become a subscription service (even things that you used to pay once and be able to use as is until you wanted to "upgrade" like, for instance, Adobe Photoshop).

Doctorow explains the difference in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Tl6yIsCoY

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I see the nuance you are making now and I agree.

SaaS does feel like technofeudalism where you pay but don't own shit, a bit like fiefs working in the field and giving wheat in exchange for a land that they don't own.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's amazing how incentives at high levels can absolutely twist someone.

Rather than discuss or investigate the situations that lead to these hire/fire cycles, potentially find a better way, they accept it as inevitable and build off of that.

They get to take the lazy route and still have room to internally satisfy their withered conscience that they are somehow "doing good" by making vague attempts to offset the shit situation, rather than trying to eliminate said situation entirely.

Fucking hell why does this explain so much of the bullshit I am dealing with at work right now?

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

It doesn't hurt them. Why the hell should they care? Their massive bonuses go through whether Dave gets to give presents to his kids this year or not!

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

At some point, companies completely absolved themselves of a large part of their purpose...which is to provide employment.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Of course money can buy anything and sometimes for very little.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the most out of touch bullshit I've heard in a long while. Normally I'd ask you kindly to go fuck yourself, but that seems a little too nice.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Every time some dumbass C- Suite moron opens bis mouth, I think what you just said.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

Don't know why society tolerates these dumbass parasites.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a greedy and corporatist thing to say.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oops, I just accidentally yoinked your meme.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

It is our meme. Yeet it as you see fit, fam.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can all these execs just fuck off and die already? Or at the very least never say anything, at all. Ever.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are lucky and rich, and they mistakenly think that equates to being smart.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The American public also elects them to office so they get to run your entire life.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So how does one start a Technology and Information workers union. Asking for a friend.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/employees/your-right-to-form-a-union

Yes, I know, sarcastic, rhetorical post but we should all know how to start the process because fuck these companies and these leeches constantly screwing us over with their greed.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, not really all that sarcastic. I work in the tech industry and.... Well we're all getting fucked aren't we?

Just imagine the power that we would have if we all stood together everyone in the help desk all the engineers all the developers...

The Earth stands still if we stand still.

E: ... I'm too much of a coward though.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

This is helpful, but the legal process is very much "the easy part" in my experience.

The hardest part is getting everyone riled enough to actually do something about it without getting singled out yourself, because everywhere is full of cowering servants who "don't wanna rock the boat" and say things like "It is what it is." and "I've only got a few more years."

These days feels like you gotta grokk leaked psy-ops manuals from various intelligence agencies to form the kind of proper coordination to find yourself not just standing there alone, a pitiful "distruntled employee".

[–] the_artic_one@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Well, you know, that's life.

These are the words of a man that totally deserves to be gunned down by a malfunctioning ED-209 prototype.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

So malpractice then?

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

“But I gave you a job in the first place, what made you think you could keep it? I’ll call you when I need you geez”

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I wonder if Sony has a grant program that will allow me to chill at the beach for a year?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

But Waymo exists... So I guess drive as much as you can right now and don't spend any of it!