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As many Republicans continue to buck their party’s nominee and nominate Vice President Harris for the White House, calls are mounting for former President George W. Bush to denounce former President Trump.

The Harris campaign has touted that more than 200 Republicans have endorsed the vice president, including former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and many former Trump insiders. It also includes former vice president to Bush, Dick Cheney.

He noted that Bush is “apparently above such petty concerns,” pointing to recent reports that said he is not endorsing anyone in the race for the White House. Multiple outlets reported that Bush’s office released a statement that said: “President Bush retired from presidential politics years ago.”

But it doesn’t work that way. When your country calls, you can’t just roll it over to voicemail because you don’t want to deal with it, especially when you are an elder statesman like an ex-president. Patriotism is for life,” Truax wrote, noting that former President Jimmy Carter said he hopes he can live to cast his vote for Harris.


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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

George Bush Jr. has the most impressive ability to sound like the dumbest motherfucker in the room always. He should also be tried as a war criminal.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He sure can dodge a shoe though

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

He did look pretty cool landing a fighter jet on that carrier before those embarrassing photos where he briefly thought the Iraq war ended with Saddam being deposed, too.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

He did complete his mission though, getting Saddam for daddy. The rest of the wars were just to allow his industry friends to siphon money from the tax payers, which they intended to go on as long as possible.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Dick Cheney: Ok, I'll clean up the mess.

Narrator: He said "up" but meant "out".

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

yes clean out the mass, clean up the mess, potato, potato

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bush is doing exactly what he should be doing, hiding like the war criminal he is. The only thing is he has a ranch in Texas instead of a hole in the ground like Saddam.

[–] meec3@lemmy.world 140 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Man who subverted democracy with the help of his brother and the supreme court....is okay with another man subverting democracy. Startling. ¬_¬

Honestly, it's much more troubling the amount of people who seem to have come round to 'George is just a bumbling buffoon but a great guy really'.

Is it just time? Wishful thinking? Or Trump making his presidency seem less destructive - even though Bush was waaaay worse for the planet as a whole? (Obviously that latter part would no doubt be ~trumped~ if he actually gets a second term)

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people have decided Dick Cheney was the main person responsible for the W administration's crimes.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there's a lot of contradiction and apologetics when it comes to Bush. He can't be an evil, cunning, crafty, bumbling ignoramus, all at once. He's definitely an idiot who knowingly employed some evil people. In my mind, that makes him pretty awful, but some people feel differently for some reason.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People seemed to forget what a ghoul Mitt Romney is too, the instant he denounced Trump that one time. It's weird, right? And, just because it's always relevant: Dick Cheney can fuck all the way off.

Do you think it could be because there was some semblance of following the rules when those fuckers were being awful (even if those were rules they changed so recently the ink was still wet, ahem definitionoftorture ahemhem), compared to the outright lawlessness of this lot?

Getting Cheney's endorsement isn't the flex folks seem to be acting like it is. "Huzzah, a lesser devil supports us instead of a literal fascist"

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Honestly, it's much more troubling the amount of people who seem to have come round to 'George is just a bumbling buffoon but a great guy really'.

Didn't you see when he gave Michelle Obama a candy from his pocket? He's just America's sweet ol' grandpa.

/S

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I really liked how Jon Stewart addressed Cheney's endorsement.

He stared directly at the camera and said "Fuck off Cheney."

Same goes for Bush. FUCK OFF BUSH. It would be an insult to have Bush or Cheney on "our" side. Goddamn war criminal, money grubbing, pieces of shit. Rest in piss when the time comes Bush.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Condemning Trump doesn't make anyone on anyone's side. It means they're NOT on Trump's side.

It's a statement about how much Trump dominates political and social discourse that people think the Democratic party is the "anti-Trump" party.

Obviously people like Cheney are against Trump, but that doesn't mean that everyone that is against Trump is a Democrat. It usually just means they're relatively rational.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Dude keeps an office staff to respond to this formally but claims to have retired from politics? Bullshit. If I have a political staff, I have not retired from politics. I want him to denounce, and I would still tell him to fuck off, so that everyone's on the same page.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

“But it doesn’t work that way. When your country calls, you can’t just roll it over to voicemail because you don’t want to deal with it, especially when you are an elder statesman like an ex-president. Patriotism is for life”

It's almost like he didn't want to be and shouldn't have been president or something.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wonder if it would even change any remaining independents or right wing people still on trump.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GW was a useful idiot puppet like Reagan and they tried to make trump.

Dick Cheney already endorsed Kamala, he doesn't need to stick his hand back up GWs ass and make him say something again.

Even if he did, it doesn't mean hes against what trump wants just mad his dad's buddy Dick Cheney isn't in power.

Like, the only positive of trump was getting rid of Cheney. Of course Cheney doesn't like trump

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think that dubya would make a difference with older voters. Also, Fuck off Dick Cheney.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Make a decision deciderman.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

if only we all could retire from politics.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (13 children)

So fucking ridiculous Dems are going after Republican endorsements like this while still ignoring the left wing of their own fucking party.

We don't need republican votes if we give Dem voters what they want to vote for.

It's just the donors want the same things as republicans, so moderates will always go right for donors

We need to start treating votes as the important part

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We don't need republican votes if we give Dem voters what they want to vote for.

The elector college is based on States, not population.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right...

And if you want to see someone flip red states more than Obama, you have to go back to FDR...

Progressive campaigns flip red states

We have literally over a century of election data. We know what works.

It's just not what the wealthy do saying to both parties want.

Are you still confused about anything

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People actually on the left only have one choice, people in-between have two, no matter how progressive you go young people (who tend to be on the left) don't vote (we also have data from other countries to prove that they don't vote even when there's parties that actually want to work for them).

So, where do you think there's more votes to be gained?

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What are they expecting out of not voting? Do they not care if Trump or Harris win? I just really don't get why you wouldn't vote here.

There also were enough people who didn't vote for or against the NSDAP because they also disagreed with the other parties... It's not about voting for a party you agree with, it's about voting for the party with which you agree more / disagree less than with the other parties.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

People actually on the left only have one choice,

If they vote....

You know the most common reason?

Both parties are too similar.

If the party moves left, that disappears and Dems donate, up and down the ballots.

But we don't do that, when it happens the party fights it as much as possible

So, where do you think there’s more votes to be gained?

The incredibly large segment of possible voters who think both parties are shit and don't fight thru red state voter suppression regularly...

But will turn out for a charismatic dem who runs a progressive campaign...

Neoliberal moderates tho. Can barely beat trump...

You legitimately don't understand the difference between a campaign like Obama's to Biden and Hillary's?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I'm sure there's some principles we can jettison or some vulnerable minority we can throw under the bus that can get him to come around.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

The Cheney controlling him already put in his bid, so he just has to power on his brain long enough to do the same. Only a matter of time. Just give it a minute.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

But he can. He has enough privilege that it doesn’t matter to him who gets elected. He's not a good person.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I did, but that's because it came from an unknown number and I thought it was about my car's extended warranty.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

IMO he's going to do it, just a matter of when.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I think being openly endorsed by the collective that laid the groundwork for Project 2025 undermines how serious you are about it. But that is just me. Harris is fine with Dick Cheney and the GOP. The shift right continues. Bush is a piece of trash.

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