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‘I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics,’ Republican candidate tells Fox’s Maria Bartiromo

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"And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military," he said.

"I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. Not even the people who have come in, who are destroying our country."

It isn't clear under what circumstances Trump would view it justifiable to call in US troops against his own countrymen.

But his comments mark a baseless attack and a particularly hollow one coming from someone whose supporters violently attacked the US Capitol in an attempt to stop him from being thrown out of office three years ago.


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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 281 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is a reminder to American service members:

Your oath of allegiance is to the United States, not to Donald Trump, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. You have a duty to obey lawful orders issued under the authority of the commander in chief. But it is your duty to disobey unlawful orders.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 148 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The oath is actually to the Constitution of the United States. So it's not even the country or the government but the idea, the founding document.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Is it the current one, or the originalist one, or the supreme court interpretation one, or the cherry picked and misunderstood one, or?

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Heritage Foundation: Hold my beer, SCOTUS ASSEMBLE! You know what to do.

SCOTUS: it's legal now.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The military has never had any hesitancy at all in murdering American citizens when told to. They will not stand up.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 164 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It isn’t clear under what circumstances Trump would view it justifiable to call in US troops against his own countrymen.

Isn't it though? He would view it justifiable to call them in for literally any reason.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The media, as usual, talks as if they're trying to discern his secret, rational plan. Even when he spouts fascist threats of mass oppression and murder, they discuss him as if he's just another politician with policy proposals. It's unclear under what circumstances he'd call in troops against Americans because he's psychologically chaotic, fragile and highly volatile. Anything could trigger him to do so. The only thing that's consistent is he threatens retribution against immigrants, trans people, Black people, women, and anyone who doesn't worship him enough.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 24 points 2 months ago

"They brought me a turkeyberder instead of a HAMberder?! Call SEAL Team 6!!"

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 112 points 2 months ago (27 children)

"I don’t think [immigrants] are the problem in terms of election day,” Trump told Bartiromo. “I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics.”

At that point, he suggested a seemingly sinister solution.

“And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military,” he said.

“I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. Not even the people who have come in, who are destroying our country.”

He's called Biden a "radical leftist", it's anyone who won't vote for him...

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 87 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If anyone actually believes Biden is a radical leftist it has to be a combination of a failure of the education system and systemic brainwashing.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

looks at his mom

...yeah it's both. 😒

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And polls continue to call the race a tie.

At some point we have to acknowledge that roughly 30% of our population are just evil, fascist monsters. Having lived in those states, this isn't a surprise.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Some of them are just country bumpkins who vote for whoever their pastor says

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Still counts more in fact. Our system is broken.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Been in their churches, you hear the chorus loud and clear when he talks about 'taking the country back from the powers of satan and other elitists'. He doesn't mean Olympic athletes.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 86 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The guy's a nutjob and the fact that his candidacy is still being framed as having any air of legitimacy by the media is fucking disgusting.

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[–] BadNewsNobody@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

[–] Fuzzy_Dunlop@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

So say we all.

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[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical ~~left~~ lunatics."

Yeah Don, we know. They even wear a red hat to help identify themselves.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

"dictator day one"

"prosecute my opposition"

"prosecute my critics"

It seems insane to think people are shooting at him because they're listening to democrats (something the MSM largely does not do) and not because people are just listening to the things he's saying he'll do.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (24 children)

For the millionth time all leftists should be armed. Cannot stress enough how important that is.

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[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh hey, treason man is yet again announcing publicly that he's a treasonous piece of shit and that he plans to continue committing treason? Wow, what shocking news. /s

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 55 points 2 months ago

So that's how he plans to make the economy better, to force his opposition to leave the country and appropriate their wealth and property. Who did Nazi that coming?

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 53 points 2 months ago

What is a Nazi dictator to do but follow his heart.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is EXACTLY what the Founders Intended! George Washington LITERALLY said that the US Military should be used on US Citizens and that Children should be Gunned Down in School!

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This rhetoric is meant for voter intimidation because they know Republicans always lose when Democrats turn out to vote.

The polls are meaningless because they could be manipulated or manufactured, we don’t know who’s being polled. People just need to cast their vote and not let this be a close election.

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[–] graphene@lemm.ee 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So like, when was the last time someone said they needed to handle the "enemy within"?

Oh wait

A famous image of Joseph Goebbels, nazi propaganda minister

I remember this from history class!

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Them "stop calling everyone you disagree with a nazi!"

Reasonable people: "then stop suggesting nazi shit?"

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is the collective stupidity of America

It isn't about Turnip making dumb comments like this or suggesting making fascist government

No

It's about how America just sits around and listens to all this stupidity and accepts it all as a regular normal part of the political conversation.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He's crying.

He's falling apart and going more batshit as his last-ditch attempt to grab power before crashing permanently.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

More that he's trying to stay out of jail.

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[–] Mobiledecay@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Didn't he try to use the military the last time and he was told no? What a psycho.

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[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago

Looks like the U.S. is going to vote in an oppressive dictatorship to own the libs.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

Soldiers are not obligated to follow unlawful orders....the brass will say "no".

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 21 points 2 months ago

And this is exactly why I registered as an independent once Trump hit the scene and I still don't feel safe with just that. I'm not some big brain smarty-pants, but I could see this piece of shit going full Nazi from a mile away, not to mention the frothing rage Fox news has kept The Base in with regard to anyone on "the left."

It's kinda sad to know that there really were only 2 people in our entire country who really would have tried to kill Hitler and one was a damn kid.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Man someone should give him the end of his political carrier that Mussolini got. The person who does has my respect for life.

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[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

And what should the military do when people storm the capital, Donnie?

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He rambled on about immigrants at a rally and said election day will be our Liberation Day. Sounds like mass deportation and mass killing of liberals to me.

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