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Gen Z falls for online scams more than their boomer grandparents do::The generation that grew up with the internet isn’t invulnerable to becoming the victim of online hackers and scammers.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 127 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kids these days cant tell which download button is the real one

[–] 1boiledpotato@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's why you a need a package manager

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A package manager for piracy?

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gen Z Americans were three times more likely to get caught up in an online scam than boomers were (16 percent and 5 percent, respectively).

Does this control for the fact that Gen Z are simply online a lot more than Boomers?

I can’t tell what these are percentages of. 16% of scammed people were GenZ? 16% of GenZ have experienced a scam? Because both of those would be skewed if, for example, 100% of GenZ use the internet daily and 20% of Boomers have never used it.

Once again, a journalist doesn’t know how to present statistics in a meaningful way. They do this 72%!

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it has more to do with age and experience than generational labels. Kis who "were just born yesterday" or "are still wet behind the ears" have always been, and always will be gullible. Everyone needs to be fooled a few times before they "wise up". We need to stop all generational finger pointing and bigotry.

[–] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My kid and his friends were convinced they would get $100 of free stuff from Temu, but only if they got 10 people to download the app. I tried telling them it was bullshit marketing but since they "heard so and so got $100 then it will work.". I downloaded it just to get them to shut up and deleted it.

Temu. Fucking Temu? It's the dollar store wish.com and that's saying something.

Anyways, it obviously didn't work and haven't heard about Temu since, then I'm pretty sure they realize their mistake.

[–] glockenspiel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gen Z falls for online scams more than their boomer grandparents do

Temu is legitimately malware. The company had their source dumped and they obfuscated their malware-like practices to avoid Google's automatic detection. I presume they did the same with their iOS client. It is very telling that they have been extremely successful despite the same exact company and team doing this before with another app, Pinduoduo. That's right; same dev team and everything. Temu goes above and beyond the normal surveillance capitalism stuff we are used to and circumvents system security in order to sell your raw data on the market. The entire scheme isn't to build a retail space (although it is doing that as well); it is to get as many people to download the app so they can steal an absurd amount of data which is normally protected.

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[–] dtrain@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Amen. I remember in high school and my early 20, I was gullible af.

It’s an age issue. Not a generational one.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a terribly written article.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Its awfulness is at least 81%

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But is that 81% decrease in quality statistically significant?

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[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Breaking news: children are more gullible than adults.

[–] BeanCounter@sh.itjust.works 111 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Breaking news: Gen Z uses more internet than their grandparents

[–] reliv3@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's my suspicion too. If more gen z are using the internet compared to boomers, then it makes sense that more of them would fall for scams.

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[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"children".

"Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years"

(source wikithingy)

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

early 2010s as ending birth years

Which means, depending on what exact years you're going with, the youngest gen z are roughly 13 years old, possibly younger, and roughly half of them are minors, I think it's fair to call those parts of the demographic children in a lot of contexts. Most of them aren't old enough to drink, only a handful of them are old enough to rent a car from most companies. Most of them are still in school, still living at home with their parents (not that I'm throwing shade, I was still living at home at their age, my wife didn't finally graduate until she was in her 30s, that's just kind of the way things are these days for a lot of people)

Teenagers and younger 20-somethings are capable of a lot of things, but they have little to no firsthand experience with the real world. They know enough to get themselves into trouble, but not enough to avoid trouble or get themselves out of it. That's just part of growing up.

I know plenty of people the same age as me who fell for various kinds of scams in their teens and 20s, a lot of craigslist scams, MLMs, various phishing emails, sending money to random online "friends" only to have them disappear afterwards, every week someone's Facebook was getting hacked, etc. And while we grew up with the internet, a lot of the potential avenues for scams hadn't really fully matured yet, so it was easier to sort through the noise. There wasn't a whole lot of user-generated content and many websites didn't need any kind of account to use, so after you learned not to click the flashing banner ads saying you won something and ignore weird emails, you were mostly pretty safe, and we adapted to all the new stuff as it came around and mostly learned how to sort out the good from the bad.

If we'd been thrown headfirst into the internet of today, I'm sure we would have fallen for just as many if not more scams.

There's probably also a lot more research now into who is falling for what kinds of scams and how frequently. If you got scammed in 2003, there's a good chance not too much came of it, maybe you had to close some bank or credit card accounts that got compromised, but cops often wouldn't really know what to do about it, you couldn't really post about it anywhere unless you had your own blog, Myspace was just getting started, Facebook wasn't out yet, maybe your 12 friends on xanga would read about it. And unless some survey taker at the mall or at your college or something asked you about it, there probably wasn't too many good ways for researchers to gather data about your experience from you.

Nowadays everyone has their own little soapbox, there's a lot of ways for people doing research on this sort of thing to find you and reach out, and overall it's a lot better understood.

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

As per usual, everyone above the age of 40 is a Boomer and everyone below the age of 40 is a Millennial. All other definitions have to bend to accommodate.

[–] max@feddit.nl 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn’t surprise me, really. With all the stories you hear about the younger part of GenZ not being familiar with things like files and directories because everything is just saved in this enormous bucket of things called “the cloud”. I’m sure some of the things I’ve read are ragebait, but from my own experience, the increased usability of mobile operating systems has really influenced their ability to work with “traditional” stuff, which is nothing more than logical. But yeah.

[–] akwd169@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I imagine it has more to do with phones being the most common and main way GenZ becomes familiar with tech, with which you mostly just open an app and it knows which files and where they are, presenting them in a way that skips the whole file/directory experience for 95% of use cases

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Compared to older generations, younger generations have reported higher rates of victimization in phishing, identity theft, romance scams, and cyberbullying.

Why include cyber bullying?

[–] Steve 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yah, that really seems out of place with the rest of the list. How does one "fall for" cyberbullying? Where's the scam?

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm also curious about what their threshold for being "victimized" by romance scams is. I've wasted time chatting with romance scammers (both bots and ones with real people responding to messages), but haven't ever given them or their shady sites my CC info, would I count as a "victim"?

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[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago
[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah no shit I'm surprised even 8% of boomers are online, they're using the only perfect antivirus - abstinence

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

That and a lot of stuff is no longer email scams. They have moved on to platforms like Discord that would be rare for a boomer to use. Even viruses are hardly an issue for them because everything is mostly done on mobile now. I know zero boomers who would say I am going to install this random .apk for a cool app that was suggested to me... instead it would just be "the app you recommend doesn't exist, it's not in the Play/Apple store"

It's this weird Era where you almost need a little more technological literacy to be scammed, but not enough to actually recognize a scam.

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Been online before you were born, kid.

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was interested in computers since like I am 6 so I am not one of those type of GenZ teenagers that only know how to use social media platforms like Instagram. Not all GenZ are like them.

[–] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah. But ngl, my family is pretty big and between my 6 cousins, I am the only one that tries to understand computer and how things work. They just use internet for gaming and social media, don't even care to see why their wifi is slow and just blame the ISP. Fixing is my only utility to my family, but I'll take it.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bad article that makes it difficult to find the study they're citing.

However. It would not surprise me if true. I'm sorry but so many of you GenZ are the most gullible people I've even seen.

Maybe we millenials are good at not being scammed because we grew up during the infancy of the internet. Our mistakes were not punished as severely. There was no widespread PayPal, cashapp, venmo or stuff like that. At worst we'd lose items in WoW that wouldnt matter in 6 months anyway because the new expanaion would come. These days a kid will lose his knife in CSGO somehow valued at $600.

Still makes me sad to see that MLM scams are thriving within all generations. Just heartbreaking.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“People that are digital natives for the most part, they’re aware of these things,” says Scott Debb, an associate professor of psychology at Norfolk State University who has studied the cybersecurity habits of younger Americans.

In one 2020 study published in the International Journal of Cybersecurity Intelligence and Cybercrime, Debb and a team of researchers compared the self-reported online safety behaviors of millennials and Gen Z, the two “digitally native” generations.

But because Gen Z relies on technology more often, on more devices, and in more aspects of their lives, there might just be more opportunities for them to encounter a bogus email or unreliable shop, says Tanneasha Gordon, a principal at Deloitte who leads the company’s data & digital trust business.

Staying safer online could involve switching browsers, enabling different settings in the apps you use, or changing how you store passwords, she noted.

Gordon floated the idea of major social media platforms sending out test phishing emails — the kind that you might get from your employer, as a tool to check your own vulnerabilities — which lead users who fall for the trap toward some educational resources.

But really, Guru says, the key to getting Gen Z better prepared for a world full of online scams might be found in helping younger people understand the systems that incentivize them to exist in the first place.


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[–] mascarasnake@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Generation X forgotten once again. Whatever.

(It was kind of expected at the time that the Millennials would be named Generation Y because they followed us, but that name never took hold. So they skipped Y and went straight on to Z, then continued with A.)

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It wouldn't be so bad but when they do remember us it's to lump us in with our parents

[–] mascarasnake@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This right here. More poignantly perhaps since the Boomers (not everyone in that age group, obviously) ruined Gen X lives first, before they destroyed the futures of subsequent generations, so we've been watching this dumpster fire for decades and warning about how bad it could become.

What might be unique to X-ers is that we witnessed the social fabric in the U.S. falling apart in the 80's under Reagan--when the likelihood of a blue-collar worker having a solid career at a good company for life, supporting a family on one income, and being able to retire without living in poverty went from being a common thing to more of a lost dream.

So yes, to be lumped in with the same generation that pulled the rug out from under us is adding insult to injury.

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[–] 01011@monero.town 11 points 2 years ago

For all the older folk pointing fingers: "But because Gen Z relies on technology more often, on more devices, and in more aspects of their lives, there might just be more opportunities for them to encounter a bogus email or unreliable shop"

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holy shit this needs additional jpeg

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Excellent thanks x

[–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If this story is even true, I suspect it's because partly because fake sites are very convincing and easy to make - social media is out control for scam ads too, especially instagram anecdotally (I stopped somebody getting scammed).

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is actually quite funny. The most connected generation ever. Lol

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